Post updated 27 July 2020!
If you are reading this, it would mean you are most likely a foreign trained dentist curious about practicing dentistry in the USA. Though the thought may seem daunting, it can be done successfully. But if you plan to go this path, be in it for the long haul…it is not going to be easy…physically, emotionally or financially.
The most commonly asked questions are – How do I practice in the US? Do I need to study all over again? Can I practice without going back to dental school? Hopefully, this post might be the most useful to answer these questions.This is an overview of the possible options that are available to foreign trained dentists and the ways they could practice in the US. As you will see, there are many options. What you decide to do is dependent on how much work you are willing to put into the process and how much freedom you want to practice in the USA.
Let’s start with how becoming a dentist is normally done in the US
After high school (11th & 12th grades), aspirants complete a 4-year undergraduate college degree preferably with an emphasis on pre-dental subjects. They then write the DAT (Dental Application Test) exam which is administered by the ADA (American Dental Association) and comprises of 280 questions related to the natural sciences, with reading comprehension and quantitative reasoning. Dental schools consider DAT scores, grade point averages (GPA), interviews and letters of recommendation during the admission process. Dental school is a 4 year (2-year pre-clinical & 2-year clinical) course, after which you take the regional licensing exam to apply for the state dental licenses. There is no obligatory 1-year clinical internship like it exists in some of the other countries. Programs such as GPR (General Practice Residency) or AEGD (Advanced Education in General Dentistry) are similar and provides a dentist with further training in General Dentistry. Various post-doctoral/specialty programs in 11 different branches of Dentistry are available for further education. Find all the information you need to know about Advanced education options here. But there are only nine CODA (Commission on Dental Accreditation) approved and ADA recognized dental specialties – Dental Public Health, Endodontics, Oral and Maxillofacial Pathology, Oral and Maxillofacial Radiology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, Orthodontics and Dentofacial Orthopedics, Pediatric Dentistry, Periodontics, Prosthodontics.
Now as a foreign dentist, there are a few different options. Some of these options require you to undergo additional training whereas others let you work immediately with a restricted dental license. The options are:
1. No additional education required
The only state that grants a US dental license without additional US training is Minnesota (MN). In 2008, the Minnesota Board of Dentistry developed considerations to enable qualified dentists from Non-Accredited dental schools to apply for Minnesota dental license. You will still need to take and pass exams like the NBDE and TOEFL as the results are part of the requirements to apply (For other requirements, click on the link). The Credentials Committee of the Board meets approximately every six weeks to review submitted materials on a first-come, first-served basis. They may request an interview, along with submission of patient records, at their Minnesota office. If the Committee determines the education of the applicant is equivalent to that of a current US dental graduate, then the candidate will be allowed to take the Minnesota bench exam and one of the Board approved clinical licensing exam. A person licensed under this provision gets a limited general dental license and must practice for three years under the supervision of a Minnesota-licensed dentist who may limit the types of services authorized. At the end of the 3 year period, they will be eligible for an unrestricted general dental license in Minnesota. Click here for more information.
2. Limited dental license
Another option for some highly qualified foreign trained dentist is to work as faculty in a dental school. In some States, a full-time faculty position would allow you to practice within the dental school with a faculty license. In the state of Massachusetts, foreign dentists can be eligible for Dental Intern Limited Licensure or Full-Time Faculty Limited Licensure. The Limited license allows the foreign dentist to practice in a public health clinic, hospital, dental school, or prison under the supervision of a Massachusetts licensed dentist. Limited licenses are valid for one year and may be renewed for up to five years. To extend the license beyond the five year period the applicant is required to pass the NERB (North East Regional Examining Board). The Faculty license allows the foreign dentist to practice as a full-time faculty member in a dental school under the supervision of a Massachusetts licensed dentist. Faculty licenses are renewed on a yearly basis but unlike the limited license can be renewed indefinitely. Click here for more information. I have heard of similar limited licensure options in Nebraska, Tennesse, and Maine.
One of the drawbacks of this option is that there the Universities do not advertise faculty positions they would be open to considering a foreign dentist. You will need to find open faculty positions on individual University webpages and email the Director to ask he would consider you for the position. Most faculty licensure requires that you have a valid job offer to be able to apply.
3. 1-2 year general practice residency (GPR) or advanced education in general dentistry (AEGD)
These include postdoctoral programs like GPR or AEGD in dental anesthesiology, oral medicine and orofacial pain. The primary distinction between the GPR and the AEGD is related to hospital experience. The GPR is typically conducted in the hospital setting and must include substantial experience in managing medically compromised patients. An AEGD program is usually conducted in a dental school, community health center or military facility and provides experience with comprehensive patient care for all population groups. One- and two-year GPR and AEGD programs are available. Both generally are tuition-free and candidates are paid a stipend. So there is stiff competition to get into these programs. Refer to the chart below to note the states that will allow foreign dentists to apply for state license after 1-2 year GPR/AEGD programs.
4. Advanced Standing Programs/International Dental Programs (IDP)
These programs allow foreign-trained dentists to be admitted into some dental schools at either the second or third year of the conventional DDS program or into a separate 2-year International program specifically for foreign dentists. Both these options would give you an American Dental degree (DDS/DMD)and allow you to practice nationwide. This is the only option that would make a foreign-trained dentist eligible for licensure in any state (after taking the required clinical exam).
5. Graduate/Specialty Programs
Of the 9 CODA approved specialties, some programs accept foreign dentists. The difference to keep in mind is that once you graduate, the Specialty degree would allow you to practice only in certain select states. The advantage is that you save time and money but skipping the International dentist program. Refer to the table below to know which states they are. Specialty programs are usually two to three years in duration except for programs in oral and maxillofacial surgery are of four to six years in duration. Dental Public Health offers either a 12-month or 24-month program.
Licensure by reciprocity/credentials grants licenses to dentists to practice in other States based on their current licensure and active, continuous practice for a specified period of time (typically 5 years) in another jurisdiction, without further theoretical and clinical examination. All the US states except for Delaware, Florida, Hawaii and Nevada allow licensure by reciprocity at some point. Find out more here. I’m aware of some states mentioned in the table/map below that gives licensure by reciprocity to foreign dentists who have completed only a Specialty program. If anyone knows of additional information regarding this, leave a comment below!
6. Miscellaneous
During the course of my study and subsequent hunt for a job, I have come across many foreign dentists who have shared how they found loopholes in the regular system that they have used to work in the USA. For example, Washington state only requires that a foreign dentist completes a two-year dental program from a US dental school. They do not specify the type of dental program and hence even candidates who have completed non-CODA approved programs such as in Implant Dentistry can be licensed in the state of Washington. Another example is the eligibility of a foreign dentist to be licensed in the state of Texas if they complete a Dental Public Health (DPH) degree. These loopholes are rare and are not common knowledge. If you know of any other, please share the information with us in the comments below.
Each state has its own licensure requirements and application process. It is very important to know the requirements in the state where you wish to become licensed prior to applying to an educational program to make sure it will meet the educational requirement. You can find state by state information on the respective state Dental Board website – ADA & AADB have resources for the same. If you are not sure or have no preference on where you want to settle down in the US, then it would be wise to go with the route that would give you the most freedom to apply for US licensure. The simplest way to explain that is – If you complete a two-year Advanced Standing Program, you will be eligible for all the states except for the fact that you will have to pass the clinical exam accepted in the State of your choosing. If you complete a Specialty program without first getting your DDS from a US program (by going through an Advanced Standing Program), then you may be limited to certain states.
The above facts are correct to the best of my knowledge but the information may change frequently. Please make sure to confirm details yourself before making major decisions regarding your future! If you know of any information on the blog that is outdated or incorrect, please feel free to share information. I will try my best to update information as I am made aware of inconsistencies.
Hi!
I’ve really found the information on this site very useful and I wanted to ask about licensure in NY : after completing the 2 year IDP, is it compulsory to do a residency in order to get a licensure ? Maybe someone could help me and clear this doubt.
Thank you again for all the information provided.
Hi Sam!
Thanks for the positive feedback..appreciate it!
Sorry about taking this last no to get back to you..I wanted to touch base with NYU and get the info correct. The 1 year general practice residency is a must as a part of the experience requirement for the dental licensure in NY. After your 2yr program, you will be eligible for a partial license that lets you practice while in a GPR program and then apply for your full license after your GPR. Hope that clears your doubt!
Valuable information. I did not really see any info on the requirements in Georgia. how do I solicit any information about the Georgia requirements and the best route to follow from a reciprocal standpoint??? Cary
Georgia requires an US DDS for licensure by examination and by credential. The best place to go would be the Georgia State Dental Board
https://gbd.georgia.gov/dental-faqs#field_related_links-86-1
At really after( or before) AEGD you need any specialty program to get licensure here in
NY state, but GPR is the best because it is just one year.
Hi, Sam!
Thank you for sharing information! I have a specialty in OMS in Korea and am looking for specialty course available in Hawaii. Can you give me tips on where I could find the information on specialty program in Hawaii??
Thank you for sharing this information. I have read about Connecticut’s requirements and I am very confused. Which program would be the better option to get the license in this state?
Thanks!I’ve got a better understanding of it now.
Hi Sam according that I know, yes NY is asking to general dentist for GPR or a dental specialty, it’s weird I know….I recommend you to send a message directly to NY dental Board. Good luck Doc!
Hello,
Very nice and informative post.
To my knowledge, Michigan also allows speciality practice after you complete 2-3 yrs speciality program. Correct me if I am wrong.
Yes Amit, that is true. Thanks for pointing that out..I will update the info on the post. Please feel free to bring up any other corrections. 😊
hello mam …what is the procedure to work in usa( virginia state) after masters in dental surgery(mds)
hello doctor Meera i would like to know how important or valuable are externships /internships in getting called to a school for an interview..
It is a very good step in the right direction – it gives you valuable face time with the people who select the candidates for interviews, let you have in depth understanding of your speciality’s common procedures and even adds something substantial to your resume in terms of US experience. At the same time – it can be time consuming and costly.
Thank you for a very well written blog. I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to you, Meera. This good deed of showing light to the lost, will surely come back to you and your family as blessings…and I shall pray for it.
I am at a crossroad of my life. Been practicing for almost a decade. I have finally decided to move on. I’m 38 years old now and that is one of the biggest factors that I fear.. have I missed the bus?!
Gave the nbde once, lost by a very small margin. Got back to the grind and put in 12-14 hrs a day studying for around 3 months. Gave it again few days ago.. was real tough. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I had a few doubts which I hope you could help clear.
1. The AEDG program; is it something which I could apply for? I am sort of fixated on a particular state that I would like to practice, so is it safe to think that it is equal to doing a DDS )if we DECIDE in which state we are planning to settle down).
2. If I spend 1-2 years doing a program on general dentistry or implants or anything that this university offers.. hoping to start practicing at the end of this course, could it be possible that one fine day ADA decides that DDS/DMD is compulsory and trashes this 2 year course.
What do you reckon my plan of action should be?
Any help or guidance will be truly appreciated.
Thank you for the encouraging words..that’s what keeps me motivated to do more posts.
I understand your fear of uprooting be yourself and moving to a new country, all the while wondering what the best course would be for you. Honestly, there is no foolproof route I can show you…
One thing going for you is that you know which state you want to settle down in…that narrows down the choices a little bit.
Check the State Dental Board website of the state you are looking to settle in and check what their requirements are. The 2-year dental programs for international students have been around for a while and I doubt will be terminated all of a sudden. If a state decides to change its laws or requirements once you are licensed to practice, there will be a clause that will allow dentists already licensed based on the 2-year program will be exempt from the changes. It will apply to only new applicants. So go ahead with your plans!
The AEGD is a good step if you have missed the application for this year..it will look great on your resume and be credited to you as US based experience.
Do whatever will be the most cost-effective and least time-consuming but at the same time, everything depends on the invitation to interview…so I would advise you to visit some of the Universities you are really interested in…one on one facetime with them helps..and doing an externship or AEGD in that University will help.
Hi , regarding all those information that you posted at above , im wonder if we still need and required to take the NBDE PART 1 and part 2 ??!
Tnx for ur help
Now no more NBDE- all together one exam- INBDE and now just 2 options- pass/fail, no more marks/percentages displayed
Hi , regarding all those information ( 6 options ) that you mentioned & that you posted at above , im wonder if we ( forigner ) still need and required to take the NBDE PART 1 and part 2 before taking up those 6 options such as GPR , AEGD OR …. ??!
How about Tofel ?
Tnx alot for ur help
The individual requirements of each degree will depend on the university you are applying to and will be specified on their website. But to get licensed in each state you will need both NBDE parts and the clinical exam for that state.
It is great information for me, but I’m still confused about my possibilities. I have never taken NBDE. I have seen patients as a faculty member of a dental school more than ten years by using a limited dental license. (I think many foreign trained faculty are in the US.) I also completed a 2-year-specialty dental program. I’m thinking that moving to other state and owning dental clinic if it is possible.
Based on the above information, I can start own clinic without any additional test in CA, CO, NM, and AK, right? Am I right?
The NBDE is required before you sit for a regional licensing exam (WREB, NERB, CITA, ADEX etc) which I’m guessing you haven’t taken yet. I am not sure which state you are working in with the faculty license (which is a normal route for many foreign dentists and I have mentioned this route as a good option to many who do not want to study any further), but depending on the rules of that state, you may or may not be eligible for an unrestricted full license in that state. this will allow you to apply for licensure by reciprocity in other states if you have worked the required time (usually 5 years).
CA, CO, NM, AK – requires IDP for immediate licensure. With Specialty education, you will be eligible only for licensure by reciprocity, provided you have worked in any other state for 3 years (total 5 years – 2 of your specialty years is considered as work) with a valid license.
All the best!
Hi Mack, do you mind give me some light in faculty member.
Which state and which facility/hospital/University/ college is it possible to achieve faculty membership and work in dentistry without any exams and how to approach getting in there? I would certainly appreciate your response also on my email. Thanks. Bharti
drbharti_g@yahoo.com
Hello. If you would be willing to, I would be interested too in finding out some more information about obtaining a faculty license. I’ve been searching all over the internet and couldn’t find very much about it. So if you could leave us a comment or I’ll leave my e-mail too: s_miha_10@yahoo.com.
HELLO MR MACK, I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE FACULTY PATHWAY. CAN YPU PLS TELL ME
Hi Dr. Mack,
Can you please indicate in which dental school you are working and how someone can start this route? you can contact me on my email: faizshabo@yahoo.com
I really appreciate your help
Hi Mac
can you please guide me to the process to get limited licensed faculty dentist in MA.
i am 38 years of experience in General dentistry.
Thank you
You will need a faculty job offer from a dental school first – contact the university and ask if they have faculty openings and will consider you as a potential candidate. Once you get the job offer, they will help you with the limited license.
Dear;
As I see that you have been working as faculty in dental school even that you don’t have NBDE. may i know what the name of that school???
Hi Mack Im Leslie , a foreign dentist who is looking practice in USA. How Can I contact to you to Clear some doubts.
Hi Mack, I read about your working profile through this post. I am an Endodontist working in India. Want to know about scope of practising after doing orofacial pain and tmd program. It’s 2 year CODA accredited program and now comes under ADA specialty list. Are faculty jobs easily available for foreign trained dentist. As you are into this since long , I find a hope to practice dentistry without DDS also. It would be appreciable if you could tell me about limited license or faculty license .
Hey Meera! Thank you so much for such a great piece of information. Please guide me about what books and schedule to follow to clear my NBDE part 1 and part 2. exams. Secondly, you have mentioned GPR and AEGD as TUITION-FREE programs well can you name some dental schools which offer such FREE programs because as per my knowledge every other program asks for a certain amount of tuition fee.
Last year the NBDE changed to iNBDE, it’s one exam that includes everything. Not sure what books are updated for the new test. Check out Dental Decks. Regarding tuition free AEGD- many if not most of them are for dentists that graduated from CODA schools, so not for foreign dentists. Some do charge tuition and receive foreign dentists, you need to check school by school and read their requirements, also get into CAAPID and ADEA PASS and check listed programs and their requirements. Not every school is listed in ADEA.
You are right GPR/AEGD most of the time they have tuitions, but they will pay you a stipend and that stipend is higher than the tuition
Can you name a few schools which offer GPR/AEGD with some stipend and are tuition-free?
Hello, do you know any way to find out which university faculty will accept you and give you faculty license? How did you land on a place with faculty license in the first place?
Hey Dr Meera,
Thank you so much for creating this thread. You’ve summarised everything so well, and made my life so much easier! I’ve been trying to figure it out on my own for so long!
So from what I’ve gathered, if I did a one or two year GPR post in VA (for example) and then worked in VA for at least 5 years, NY state would accept my licensure through the reciprocal licensure scheme?
TIA
The reciprocal license requirement is different in each state..for New York you will still be asked for a two year program that resulted in a DDS which GPR will not give and NY also requires 1 year of residency which the GPR covers..so unfortunately you will still not be able to practice in New York.
I’m not understanding the AEGD or GPR program. I am a foreign dentist and would like to know how this works? I’ve been looking into this and still I’m not understanding it. Plan on working in NY and would like to know how it works.
Dr.Meera. your posts are really helpful, informative and giving a ray of hope to the people who have less knowledge and were tired in gathering the information required about all these. u made it a step easier.
can u pls help with me with my doubts. i pursued my masters in endodontics from India. If i get a sponsor who is a practicing dentist in US, do i still need to get through NBDE?? Does H1-B visa work for that. and can i get into advanced dental programs if i ll go through HI-B. ur reply will be highly helpful.
The only way to practice as a dentist in the US is by getting a US degree, be it DDS or MS programs and to get licensed in any state you will need all the exams. You will not be eligible for a dental license in each state so there is no point in a sponsor or job offer. You can work as a dental assistant (in Texas, it’s only a matter of online registration and an exam) and be on an H1b visa while you apply to schools. Otherwise, being on an H1b does not give you any benefit for getting into dental programs.
Thank u for the reply
My wife just completed her MDS from India (she has her BDS from India as well) and moved to the US (I am a US citizen). Her MDS was in Oral medicine and radiology. Currently, we like in Pennsylvania and we would like to be able to practice in Pennsylvania. My wife just took her TOEFL and she is preparing for her NBDE part 1 and part 2. Her BDS degree was evaluated by ECE and they said that it corresponds to 5 years of Dental school education in the US. We need to get all the paperwork for her MDS degree (she took her exams in June and all documents are not available yet) to ECE for evaluation. Given all this and the fact that she will take her NBDE exams and clinical exam, would she still need to complete a 2 year US dental degree to be able to practice in Pennsylvania ? Is it the same to be able to practice in New Jersey ? I appreciate you taking the time to write this blog, Dr. Meera and I hope you will be able to provide some information on this.
Thanks Daniel for such positive feedback. Regarding your questions, unfortunately the ECE’s mention of BDS education corresponding to 5 years of US education is only for you to be able to apply to Advanced standing programs in the US. It does not give your wife a DDS/DMD degree which is necessary for a dental license in Pennsylvania and in New Jersey. So she will have to apply for and graduate from a 2yr or more Advanced standing CODA approved course that gives her a US dental degree. There is no shortcut for that.
There is however a limited faculty license in Pennsylvania that allows your wife to teach in a university and practice within it. Both Pennsylvania and New Jersey have licensure by reciprocity after 5 years of practice in any other state..but you will still need a DDS/DMD to qualify. I hope this answers your question.
Meera,
your blog is really helpful to people. As others i also have a doubt. As you said above that NJ/PA has a reciprocity after 5 years of practice. Does that mean u can get a non restricted licence if u have done a 3 year residency and do not hold a DDS/DMD?
NJ does state that the dental board will consider licensure by credential if the applicant has 5 years of active license in certain states (I’m not sure if years of residency is considered) but it also does state that foreign dentists require US DDS to qualify for licensure. PA licensure by credential is decided on a case by case by the dental board. So both are not a given, just a possibility. It is best that you contact the boards directly before making major decisions.
Let me know the pathway she followed
I need help
Thank you very much for your quick response, Dr. Meera. We are currently planning to go through the Advanced Standing Program but we were hoping that her MDS degree and her clinical experience in India would be seen as appropriate to not have to go through the full 2 year program but a potentially reduced one. I guess that does not really happen. Really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Hi Meera,
Great Blog!! Very precise and clear..My wife is planning to apply for AEGD/GPR this year. She has ample experience as a dentist in India and trying to garner research exp here in Indiana where we reside. Could you shed some light on the Indiana state specific application for licensure after AEGD/GPR? Would you happen to know someone who has gone through this route?
Any help is truly appreciated!!
Thanks,
DJ
Hi DJ,
Thank you for your kind words.
Regarding licensure in IN after AEGD/GPR – the dentist license requirements only say you must complete a CODA approved program and does not specify that it should lead to a DDS/DMD degree. Having said that, you should still contact them via email to verify your particular hypothetical case and have it in writing (not just confirm it on the phone). IN has a dental board that grants dental license on a case by case manner so it is important to understand that no case is the same to them.
Make sure the AEGD/GPR that you apply to is a CODA approved program..they might be harder to get into for foreign students but this is imperative to fulfilling the license requirements.
I unfortunately do not know anyone who has gone this route..if anyone reads this comment and knows more information, please share it with us!
Best of luck to the both of you!
Hello,
Just curious if you have found anything from the Indiana dental board?
I am in the same situation as your spouse and was wondering if anyone has been through this path
Thank you
Hello,
This post made everything more clear so thank you!
Which schools have 1 year AEGD for international dentists and which schools have 1 year GPR for international dentists? Especially for GPR, as far as I searched, citizenship is needed.
This link will be useful for your to search all the different CODA approved programs.
http://www.ada.org/en/coda/find-a-program/search-dental-programs#t=us&sort=relevancy
As far as I know, most paid positions are for permanent residents or citizens. There is a lot of competition as well but it never hurts to look at all your options. All the best!
Good Evening,
Thank you for posting this information and answering questions on the thread as well. I know that everyone who reads this page appreciates your time, insight, and education.
I am writing on behalf of my husband who is foreign trained/licensed in OMFS. He also had his own clinic and worked at the university. We are trying to figure out the best option for his schooling in the US. We are not tied to any specific state or location and are willing to relocate. He will be taking his NBDE part 1 in the next couple months and then hopefully part 2 afterwards and testing for his TOEFL. My question is if you have any recommendations on what programs or schools would be the best for him apply to? His first 5 years he ended up with a 3.4 GPA and last 2 years in OMFS with a 4.0 GPA per his ECE evaluations.
I should add that we find it important to work in several states, and not be stuck in one state.
Thank you very much for you help and insight.
Hi Sarah, I’m glad that the info is helpful!
Regarding your husband’s situation, I would advise him to apply to the IDP programs. That would give him the freedom to practice anywhere after he graduates..he can then practice as a general dentist or apply for a specialty. All OMFS specialties require IDP for its applicants. OMFS programs are 4 or 6 year programs that give him a DDS or MD respectively. Once he completes NBDE I & II (maybe ADAT?), apply to as many IDP programs. His GPA is great but sometimes you just can’t say what they are looking for. Take it one step at a time and hang in there..there will be a breakthrough if you work at it. All the best!
Hi,
I am a dentist from India. I am planning to settle in Florida. I also did MPH. what is the good option for me to do? AEGD?
Hi Rinny,
I somehow missed your comment. Sorry for the late reply.
Your best option will be international DDS program or AEGD/GPR (Any 2-year CODA approved program that gives you a diploma, degree or certificate that is equivalent to a DDS degree).
“The requirements for foreign dentists in Florida: The applicant must complete a program of study at an accredited American dental school and must demonstrate receipt of a Doctor of Dental Surgery degree (D.D.S.) or Doctor of Dental Medicine degree (D.M.D.) from that school, or must complete a 2-year supplemental dental education program at an accredited dental school and receive a dental diploma, degree, or certificate as evidence of program completion.”
Hi, I’m planning to take Part 1 and looking for a study partner my phone number 210-289-6159 my name Victor
Sorry I’m in Texas, specifically San Antonio
Hi, I have just completed my BDS from a government college in India. I am looking for options for post graduation. I wanted to know if pursuing pg in USA has any drawbacks. I mean what is the course that has a better scope in USA and I also wanted to know the exams to be qualified for the same.
Your question is too vague for me to reply..I would advise you to read the other posts in my blog as I’ve answered these questions there. If you then have a specific question, I will try to help.
I wanted to know what is the qualification required to apply for the postgraduation courses in the USA? Is the bachelors degree( from India) sufficient or is a masters degree( from India) required?
Bachelors degree is enough to apply but there will be very few universities and programs that will accept foreign students without US DDS. So it would be more time efficient to apply for IDP and then do the specialty program. It also depends on which specialty you want to pursue..I’ve only seen some Perio, Pros, Endo etc take foreign dentists into their program but usually after they do an externship or preceptorship with them.
Hi HF, post-graduation is not required but clinical work experience and some US-based experience is always helpful.
Hi Meera great blog, thank you!!!
I took the nbde part 1 and 2 recently, my GPA is 3.6 …. but my toefl is horrible, I am trying to improve my English but I can’t get more than 75. My question is …. I will have real possibilities of being able to enter to a GPR or AEGD program? I am a permanent resident
Permanent residents have more options regarding GPR and AEGD so that’s great. Regarding TOEFL score, if you can get FaceTime with the program you are really interested in and they realize that you can converse well in English then it shouldn’t matter. But if they are looking only at the score, then it will be hard because they would only assume that you would find it hard to understand simple instructions and converse with patients.
When I mean FaceTime..I mean do some shadowing or assisting in the program..go meet the director or faculty and talk to them about your application..that way you are more than a piece of paper on their desk!
Thank you very much, I appreciate your advices!!
Hi. Dr. Meera. I went through your blog. Heartfelt thanks for simplifying things which seemed so clouded and complicated before. It is a huge help.
My question is little vague. So, if you can help me out, then it will mean the world to me. My husband is moving to states by end of the year on H1B visa and it’s still an ongoing discussion for whether it will be Florida or California. I am not sure how to start planning my career according to it. I would really like to be able to practice the clinical aspect of our field. What shall I do?
From my understanding of your blog, International Dental Program is what I should focus on. Did I get that right? If yes, then does it mean that I need to clear the NBDE irrespectively? Or, can I enrol in any college in States for Dental Health Program course and can go from there? I will be on H4 visa. So, have to figure how all this will work out in grand scheme. Can you help me with this? My mail id is shrinku.pooja@gmail.com. If you could be kind enough to help me, guide me in right direction then it would be lifesaver for me.
Thank you so much in advance.
Basically I am pediatric dentist from India and planning to move to US
Regarding My profile
– I have completed my BDS and also completed masters MDS in Pediatric dentistry in 2016.
– ECE CBC report: GPA score 3.71 for BDS and 3.38 for MDS
– I have completed 2 Publications: 1 National and 1 International
– I had also completed my own thesis research work named : ” Complete caries removal vs sealing caries using the hall’s technique in carious primary molars : A 12 months follow up in vivo clinical study”
– I had also completed Dissertation on “Tooth Avulsion”
– I had also attend plenty of CDE programmes and national conference in India
– i Had also presented 1 Scientific Poster and 2 Scientific Paper at pedo national conferences.
– I am currently working as a pediatric dentist, after completion of my postgraduation in august 2016, in Gujarat, India so around 1.5 years of clinical experience as a pediatric dentist
– I am fond of Dental photography since my post graduation so i had also complied all my good cases into clinical case file which i am using now to educate parents and patients regarding pediatric dental treatment procedures.
Does my profile good enough to apply for either DDS or Pedo Residency?
I f i can skip DDS and directly do pedo Residency? in which all states i can practice ?
pedo is having grats cope in AZ, FL thats i know anyother states
Hi Nirav,
Your profile is great but I cannot say for sure that this profile will get you into a US dental program. Why? Because I still don’t know what the criteria for admission are…each university looks for different criteria and your profile alone will not be a good indicator of your chances. Your profile will of course hopefully get you interviews which is the first step to you being able to charm them in the interview with your personality and show your skills in the bench exam.
Regarding DDS or Pedo – I think all Pedo residencies need a DDS for you to apply (someone correct me if I’m wrong) so DDS might be the better route for you. This will also let you practice in all the states in the US as well. So go ahead and apply – make sure you finish all these steps before you apply!. All the best.
Hello, You do NOT need a DDS or DMD to apply for a Pedo Program, but since you are already a Pediatric Dentist you will be better off getting a DDS/DMD to work anywhere in the states. If you do decide to apply for Pedo Residency, check out the webpage of each school and scroll down to the question if the take International dentist. I know Uconn, Puerto Rico and Rutgers School of Dental Medicien do; and UCONNUNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT if I am not mistaken and according to their webpage pays you a basic salary during those 2 years of residency even if you are international.
Thanks Jairo for the info! Definitely helps!
Hello! Thank you very much for your information, all that information means hope for all people who always wanted to practice in United States! I’m in Maine now, but I couldn’t find information about limited dental license in Maine. Do you know where I could fin more about it? Thank you very much!
Thank you for the positive feedback.
Regarding the limited license..go to this page and check out the different license types..you will be looking for Special dental license (charitable) or Faculty license
http://www.maine.gov/dental/licensure/license-types.html
Hi Dr Meera, thank you so much for this information. I have been researching so much and have not come across anywhere that explains the requirements like you did.
I am a foreign trained dentist from Colombia and have recently gotten married to a US citizen and had to move to the USA.
Currently live in Florida but I have been considering other options since I really want to do specialty program and not have to go through a general dentistry program again. My passion is periodontics and I would to what is the most effective way to acquire dental license if I just go the specialty program way.
Do you recommend I do the GRE/AEGD programs?
Thank you so much in advance for all your help!
Hi Alexandra,
Nice to see someone from Colombia on this Forum. I am from Colombia and know some ins and outs of the dental degree system here. It depends if you and your husband are willing to move to other states. If you guys want to stay in Florida I will recommend doing the DMD program in Nova. If you are willing to move then you can apply to a Perio Program, just check in each school webpage if the accept international graduates. I know the dental school in New Jersey does accept international graduates, but remember you will be limited in the states where you can practice.
Hi Jairo, thank you so much for your reply!
We don’t mind moving and are actually leaning towards moving so I can do Periodontics and be able to get my dental license that way. I would look into which school accepts international graduates and what state will be the best option to move and settle in.
Thanks again for your advice, I will check out the dental school in New Jersey.
Hi Alexandra!
I’m sorry I haven’t replied to you yet…I somehow missed your comment in the midst of all the others! I would advise you to apply directly to the Perio programs that accept international students (you have to call them to be sure). If you are particular about a certain program – shadowing in the department will help to give you valuable face time with the people who will determine who to call for interviews. If you have your heart set on not doing the general programs again then put all your efforts in finding out the programs that are most likely to accept an international dentist and go about working on getting in there.
Hello
Thanks a lot for your post, it is an eye opener.
For the dental intern limited licence or the full time, must one be a US citizen or a permanent resident?
No
Thank you for your reply.
Please do you know of any schools or hospitals that accept internationally trained dentists as dental interns? I’ve searched extensively but I can find. Please help . Thank you .
They have what is called externship or preceptorship, basically you pay them to assist or shadow in the desired department. This is for the dental specialties in the university…not for the international dental program. I don’t think you can work as an intern in the manner you are thinking (like housesurgency right?). Then there are faculty positions international dentists can apply for..these are far and few in between. Then there are the Advanced general dentistry programs like GPR or AEGD. Research into these options and decide which route is for you. All the best.
Hi!, thank you for such a great information. it’s always good to know there are other people out there who share same concerns.
so right now i’m in ortho PG program and graduating in 2019. I do not have DDS. and i was thinking about working either in Portland, Seattle, Hawaii, Houston, or Chicago.
will all those cities eligible for my status? i’m sorry i did look at the map up there but just wanted to make sure.
Thank you for your kind information once more.
Best,
Yes, you are eligible in all those states but the licensing exam and steps required are all different. Once you decide where you want to move, checkout the state board requirements for that particular state and do the needful. All the best.
Thank you so much for your time.You are very kind.Can i talk to you.Could you please connect me to any Oral Pathologist.I went to Buffalo university and talked to the program director.He told as i already have a oral pathology degree there is more chance of getting admission.But yet for my husband green card has not been raised by his company.He is into IT profession.And more over i feel compared to general dentistry the chance of getting job for Oral pathologist is less.I am not sure if it is true.Even the program director told me most of the people who studied there went back to their own countries.I am really confused.Now t is almost three years i have been here in USA ,sitting idle at home.I am not even getting any volunteering opportunities in dental clinic.
Your help is deeply appreciated.
Hi Anu,
I know the frustration of being at home and feeling useless! Believe me, this time is not wasted..enjoy it while you can..you have the rest of your life to study and work to your heart’s content! Regarding any oral pathologists I know, I’m afraid my answer is zero but I would advise you to contact oral pathologist on LinkedIn..I saw a bunch of practicing oral pathologists…you can private message them directly on LinkedIn..if there are any practicing near you, ask if you can shadow and determine the scope of the specialty. From what I know, even though jobs are less, the competition to get into programs is less too. It’s a gamble, either ways.
Hi Ki, can you tell me in what ortho program did you get in? or share your profile, because I want to take the same path. Thank you for your help.
Hai Thanky ou for all the informations provided.You are doing a wonderful job.I have completed my post graduation in Oral Pathology .Currently living in Newyork in dependent visa.Could you please tell me the possible options for an Oral Pathologist and scope of it here in USA.
Oral pathologist in the US generally works in dental schools, labs, pain/sleep clinics, as private consultants and as specialist witnesses in court cases etc. The number of board-certified oral pathologists are relatively low, which may mean less competition for employment opportunities. However, I do know that one of the oral pathologists at UNC is the highest paid dentist (600K+ a year) in the school. She does reports for people all over the state (and country?) and apparently testifies in court a lot regarding dentists missing oral cancers and such. I think it’s a valuable and much-needed branch of dentistry. I’m sure you should be able to apply directly to the Oral Path specialty programs. Let me know how that works for you… I’m interested to see what happens. All the best!
Hi Dr Meera, my sincere thanks to you, I could see a light at the end of the long tunnel. Wishing you many blessings for your very great helpful heart.
I am currently into the 3rd year of my master-doctorate program specializing in OMFS in China. I attained my BDS 7 years in my home country, Papua New Guinea (South Pacific) region.
I am really keen to come and practice OMFS in US (it can be with a public hospital, Private hospital/clinic or at a university), after I complete my Doctorate (PhD) program in OMFS here.
From my above background information, please kindly assist me with your best advice..
Thanks so much for your time and I would really appreciate your great help/advice.
Kind Regards
Hi Dr. Thomas,
Thank you for all the good words..I really appreciate it.
Regarding you working as an OMFS here in the US…you have to go the same route as everyone else, unfortunately. I would advise you to go through an International dental program or any specialty program and get a US dental license. How long do you have left to finish your doctorate? I would recommend you apply to the programs before you graduate. The application cycle is 2 full years before you start the program. So let’s say you apply now for 2018 interview…you might start your program only in 2019. So don’t wait to finish your program…just make sure the program start date is after you graduate from your PhD program.
All the best!
Dear Doctor Meera, Thanks so much for your wonderful blog! literally you’re the best and everything you explained in different categories means so much to people like us. I learned a lot by going through your articles and i must say it really helped me go through the whole process. I recently moved to the states ( I Got my Permanent resident card ) and i finished dental school in iran two years ago. Before i came here i only knew that i have to go through NBDE 1&2 and IDP. Now i figured that i can apply for AEGD and GPR programs ( You mentioned citizens/residents have a higher chance of getting into the program am i right?). The thing is, i don’t intend to work in a specific state (any state is fine to me). Now i’m kinda confused; should i take NBDE and then continue with IDP OR Get into AEGD/GPR Programs OR look for Externship/Preceptorship that accept Foreign Dentists and continue with the license? Which of the Three options will cost less for a permanent resident and is better to go for it? Your answer means a lot thanks in advance!
Hi Tina,
Thank you so much for your kind words.
The easiest way is still applying for IDP programs just based on the sheer number of seats available and the resultant freedom to practice anywhere in the US. My advice to you is if you have applied to International dental programs this cycle and not gotten any interviews, then try to apply to 1 or 2yr AGED/GPR/CODA approved implant residencies etc…these will let you practice in certain states and also look good on your resume if you want to still apply for International dental programs/specialties. You have an advantage that some AEGD/GPR programs do favor PR/Citizens because they offer a stipend to these programs.
Regarding the route with the least cost – I won’t be able to predict that – it all depends on you getting in somewhere. Once you get accepted into programs, then weigh the cost of the program with the benefit – which states will you be able to work, can you find yourself settling down there longterm etc.. As a permanent resident, I know the tuition will be considerably less for you if you apply to colleges in the state that you live in (in-state tuition) and also you might be able to apply for federal loans which have better rates/ private loans with no co-signer if you have a good credit score.
Hope this helps you…all the best!
thanks dr meera! your answer means a lot to me! one thing that is still unclear to me is regarding the states that need 1/2 years of GPR or AEGD for licensure. these states actually allow limited licensure to foreign dentists without going through the international dentist program?
i mean once i finish the CODA approved GPR/AEGD program will i be able to apply for licensure?
and the other thing is after i finish GPR/AEGD will i be able to apply for masters program like orthodontics, perio, endo etc? what will happen to the licensure after an international dentist graduates the master’s program?
it’s kinda complicated and i couldn’t find useful info on it 🙂
thanks again
A few states will let you apply for a dental license based on your AEGD/GPR degree. After a masters program, a few more states will be open to licensure. You just have to decide which of these states you want to practice in and apply for dental licensure. Some more states will open up for you once you practice for 5yrs or more. But without an IDP program and it’s DDS certificate, you will never be eligible for licensure in all the states of USA.
The states where one can practice without a DDS/DMD , only with the GPR/ AEGD , and after 5 years of practice, are 46 , right? Also, after finishing the GPR/AEGD can you give NERB, WREB etc ?
Thank you so much for your time!
I don’t know if there are 46..most states that allow reciprocity also ask for DDS so you can never become eligible in those states.
Thank you for clearing the doubt, because I saw that you put a file ,about license reciprocity ( where it states that there are 46 states ) and thought that it also worked for the ones without a DDS, but only GPR/AEGD.
Regarding the WREB/NERB eligibility, I’m looking into it but if I remember, all you need is a letter from your program director saying you have completed 2 yrs of US CODA approved training to be eligible for the exam.
Thank you so much for your time and reply! You’re a wonderful human being!
To qualify for the WREB or NERB exam, you will need to get a letter from the state board specifying that you have completed a CODA approved dental program and will be eligible for licensure by the state.
“If candidate is a foreign-trained graduate or a graduate of a non-accredited dental school, the state board where the candidate is seeking licensure must provide an original letter. The letter must have the state seal affixed, and must verify that the candidate is eligible to take the WREB exam.”
“NOTE: WREB is a testing agency. We do not handle licensing. Proof of graduation must be provided to individual states for a candidate to receive a license. Some state boards may have more stringent requirements. Candidates should contact the state board where they wish to practice to obtain specific licensure requirements.”
Thank you so much for clearing it!
Great blog! regarding the WREB pathway -does it matter which CODA approved dental program? does it have to be a DDS or could it be ortho or AEGD? many thanks
Im a foreign trained dentist and currenly Im in Periodontics residency in the US and I took WREB in my second year.
Many thanks for your reply Shirin! congratulations! where are you studying? Have you got any tips for applying for perio? Im in the process of putting my application together. v stressful!!! I understand if you are busy and its not possible but I would really be grateful if we could keep in touch via email- kde23212@gmail.com x
Dear Meera,
I am an Indian dentist (BDS) with an experience of around 5.5 years and i am highly interested in Endodontics and Restorative dentistry field. I have been documenting my cases and also taking courses over that in India. But now I want to earn a masters in any of the branches their from US and settle down right their.
I have been making research since many a days and came across master’s program in Restorative dentistry. I want to apply for UCLA in this year cycle because i dont want to waste my time any more. What i have found is, the course isnt a CODA accredited but the website states that,’You may be eligible for the dental licensure after the completion of the program in some states of US”.
I am highly interested in the restorative dentistry field and want to pursue degree. But at the same time highly scared to apply as its not a CODA accredited course.
Can you please guide me regarding that. Should i go for this course or not??
I will be highly thankful to you.
Hi Abhay,
Sorry for taking so long to reply to you. I’m not sure where you got your information but the UCLA website says that the Endo program is CODA approved.
https://www.dentistry.ucla.edu/learning/endodontics
“This program is accredited by the Commission on Dental Accreditation of the American Dental Association and affiliated with the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center.
The program in Endodontics is accredited by the Commission on Dental Accreditation and has been granted the accreditation status of “Approval without Reporting Requirements”.”
What I do realize though is that there are 3 positions for graduates of CODA accredited dental schools, 2 positions for graduates of non-CODA accredited dental schools – so you being a graduate from India, you will come under non-CODA approved dental school.
Hope this helps you. All the best!
Dear Meera,
I am asking about Restorative Program(ADVANCED CLINICAL TRAINING) from UCLA.. which is 2 years and 1 year another pilot program may be added after 2 years clinical training.
Thats not CODA acrredited.
I am asking about that program.
Please guide me.
Regards
Sorry, I misunderstood the program. Yes, the UCLA ACT Restorative program is not CODA approved. But some states may accept a diploma, degree or certificate upon
completion of a 2 year US dental program (FL, IA, MI, NY, VA) for dental licensure. I would advise you to contact/email the dental board in these states directly and get confirmation in writing before deciding on pursuing this route to seek licensure in the US. All the best!
Hey Abhay
Do you have any updates on your status. Were you able to find any more info on being eligible for license after completing a 2 year Non CODA accredited Graduate program
Any info on the restorative dentistry
Please advise
any more idea about fate of license after finishing this program?
Good day!
Thanks you for your post, is very helps ful. However I checked that the link about the info to get the licence in Minnesota is broke. Do you know more about Maine, currently I’m.living there and I would like keep here. Thank you!
Hi Sindy!
Thanks for your kind feedback and for letting me know about the broken link! I’ve fixed it know – let me know if it works for you.
Regarding practicing dentistry in Maine, check out this link
http://www.ada.org/~/media/ADA/Education%20and%20Careers/Files/Maine_Licensure.pdf?la=en
Hope that helps!
Hi!
Very keen on practicing in the USA. And this site is extremely helpful. I’d like some more detailed information and guidance. What are the fees for these GPR/AEGD/IDP/Advanced Standing Programs?
Thank you!
IDP/Advanced standing programs cost around 70,000 to 140,000 per year (most are 2-year programs).It becomes more expensive if you are attending school in expensive cities like NYC or LA or SF, where the living cost is much more then other schools. Most programs have listed the costs with or without living expenses on their website.
GPR/AEGD varies…most offer a stipend of around 50,000/year. This makes it highly competitive to get into and some programs actually prefer a Green card holder/US citizen. Check out individual program websites for more information.
All the best!
Hello Meera thank you again for this excellent chat. I am trying to apply to the ADAT test for the next cycle, and although I have read everything that has been said on this site, I still have a doubt, in my particular case I have no relationship with the school in my country for political reasons, when apply this year to ADEA pass they gave me the option of not contacting to the dean, “request for exception” or something like that, I have my ECE reports, what options do I have?
I actually have no idea! I would advise you to contact ADA at http://www.ada.org/en/about-the-ada/contact and ask them how to navigate the ADAT application. Hope that helps!
Thanks, I appreciate your help.
Hi Im USA citizen BDS completed in 2009 working as RDA Registered dental assistant in texas.
What are options for me.
i want get more info on LIMITED DENTAL LICENSE.
how would i apply for faculty job. Just go to school; website or go to dental schools and talk in career or HR dept.
Most Universities have the jobs posted on their website. It is best if you have someone you know on the inside who can vouch for you or recommend you to the Board. Another option is to apply in states like Minnesota that need dentists. Texas is saturated, opportunities will be limited. Also look into teaching in Dental Assisting schools, though I think they look for certified DAs. All the best.
Hi Dr.Meera,
I wanted to ask if, usually, AEGD are less expensive than IDP…I read that you said that usually you get a stipend if you do either GPR or AEGD, but, for instance, Rochester University AEGD program for foreign dentists is tuition based, but much less expensive than an IDP….is that usually the norm? AEGD being less expensive than IDP or it depends on the university?
Also. thank you for your latest post in financing dental school abroad!
GPR/AEGD is less expensive that IDP because there is really no structured educational program. It’s similar to the senior house surgency program in India, you are there to work. No one is going to teach you or guide you like they would in an IDP program. AEGD programs are loosely structured with a few classes and are therefore usually tuition-based programs (easier to get into). In GPR you will usually get a stipend (around $50,000/year) and are usually hospital/clinic-based, therefore gives preference to US citizens/permanent t residents who have an existing US license. I will write a post soon on AEGD/GPR programs since a lot of you have questions regarding them.
Thanks for replying.
So between AEGD and IDP, the chances to get in, are similar then? I thought that AEGD are more competitive to get in, than IDP, please correct if I’m wrong.
Thank you so much for all the information.
Yes AEGD is more competitive
Also, I forgot to ask: if the person finishes an AEGD instead of an IDP, are they eligible to sit the former NERB or WREB exam?
Hi Dr. Meera
It’s a great job that you’re doing. There’s a dearth of authentic information and lots of misconceptions regarding the topic.
My question is similar to the one Dr Nirav already asked above. I shall finish my postgraduation in Pediatric Dentistry from India. I have done some original research, have won best poster and table clinic awards at National Conference and I’m from one of Asia’s most reputed Dental Schools, Manipal.
Is there any way for me to get a fellowship/job as a faculty somewhere in the US? I cannot really afford DDS fee.
The best way to know is to apply..look online at University websites to see openings and apply – no cost to you for that. Universities generally process work visas only for full time faculty and it is a disadvantage to you that they have to additionally bring you from India. If you know someone who is faculty in the university already, they may be able to pull some strings to get you an interview call, the rest is up to you. It will not be easy but try, try, try. Regarding fellowships, I’ve heard they get a lot of applications and look for lots of practice experience/specialty etc. Your resume is promising, so apply and see what happens. Check out implant fellowships as well..there are even ones that offer you a certificate. Check them out and then try to get a faculty job in the university you are studying in.
Also, I forgot to ask: if the person finishes an AEGD instead of an IDP, are they eligible to sit the former NERB or WREB exam?
Good afternoon,
Amaizing post, very helpful, and also seems you take time to asnwer everyones question or doubts. Much appreciated.
Now, I would like to ask you if you can help me with some doubts.
I’m a international trained dentist (DDS from fopreign non accredited ADA US school), and this year I got aacepted into a MSD in periodontics in a University in Boston. I should start the specialty training in summer term 2018. NBDE part I pass.
I would like to know, what extra steps I would have to do to be licensed to work as a dentist in the state of Massachusets, Florida or Texas?
Anything I would have to do prior to graduation of the specialty course?
Looking foward for your response, and thank you so much in advance.
Congratulations! You will love Perio! I would advise you to finish with NBDE Part II as well as that will be a requirement for sitting for the clinical exams – WREB/NERB/CITA/ADEX etc. Right now that’s all you can do..in your final year of the program you can appear for the clinical exam of your choosing. Check individual state boards for the clinical exams they accept..they may be different…all the best!
Thank you
Hi, the information you provide is very useful, thanks. Do you Know where can I find specialty programs that accept foreign dentists?
You will have to look at individual programs.. as of now I don’t think there’s a comprehensive list of all the programs.
Good afternoon!
Thank you very much Meera for this informative blog.I am a general dentist from India who practiced for 9 years before I had to move to the US because of my husband’s software job.After moving to the US, I took both parts of Nbde and have shadowed and volunteered for more than a year. Since , I am on H4 visa, I cannot work here. I tried applying to some of the advanced standing programs and Aegd programs here. Unfortunately, I was unable to get in. I was waitlisted this year for the restorative dentistry program at Ucla which is a non Coda accredited program.I also interviewed at Uconn school of dental medicine for the oral radiology program in December 2017, but have not heard from them. I am going to begin the DPP program in prosthodontics at University of Michigan school of dentistry from January 2018 to April 2018. What is your advice for me when I pursue the program at Michigan. Thank you very much in advance.
From what I understand, the DPP program is like an externship rt? This time you spend there will be valuable for you to get to know the faculty there and have them see what you are like in class, clinic etc. Make sure you let them know you are interested in applying to the program and what their advice would be.
I have a question though, it seems like your trying to apply to anything and everything. Is there a particular program you want to apply for? Try not to let departments know that you are applying for multiple positions, most departments like to think you are focused on one specialty or program. So in Michigan, decide on one specialty and the IDP programs, not too many applications here and there.
Hi, first of all, thank you so much for this. This is by far the most beneficial post I have come across when it comes to this topic.
My question is if I go for an AEGD/GPR in which they pay you a stipend, will I be allowed to apply in speciality programs after completing the AEGD/GPR course? I am interested particularly in Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery and I am willing to do it from any state possible. This way the AEGD/GPR confirms your ability to practice general dentistry while the Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery Residency would confirm that I can perform those procedures too. Correct?
Having an AEGD/GPR on your resume will give you a better chance for getting into OMFS programs. AEGD/GPR eligible states are few so your ability to practice will be limited to them and you will not get reciprocal license in all the states either. Regardless of being AEGD or OMFS graduates, you will be applying for a general dentist license that will let you practice general dentistry unless you publish that you will be limiting your practice to your specialty.
So just to be clear, basically if I get an AEGD/GPR, I can only apply for OMFS residency in those states which accept an AEGD/GPR for international graduates?
Thank you once again!
Basically my plan is:
NBDE=> AEGD/GPR=> Work for a few years=> Apply for OMFS residency.
Is that possible?
Possible but not at all easy..but then again we are here to beat the odds rt? All the best!
First of all Dr. Meera thank you for this valuable post!
I am also interested in pursuing OMFS in the US as I am based in England and unfortunately it takes ages to become and OMFS here and it’s painful not only from the long specialty following completion of a medical degree but also we are forced into going back to pure med school without any possibility of any earning any money during those three years. So as far as I understand there is no chance of getting into OMFS Residency as a foreign citizen without achieving first AEGD/GPR to boost our resume?
Hi Michelle, I have heard of foreign dentists getting accepted in OMFS programs without any US dental experience or education but it’s very rare and it definitely is harder still if you are not a US citizen or permanent resident since most OMFS programs give a stipend. This stipend is usually from the government and they prefer that residents and citizens receive it. But there is no harm in applying and getting a feel for what they might be looking for. Write an email to the desired OMFS programs and explain your unique achievements, attach your resume and see how they respond. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain! All the best.
Anyone can apply for OMFS programs even as a foreign dentist, you will be allowed to practice within the program limits but the issue is most OMFS programs will take US citizens or permanent residents because of the government funding it receives. This is true of any program that pays a stipend…they are limited to foreign residents.
Exactly. Which is why I aim on doing the AEGD first which would make my resume look good and will also help me find a job so I can then further apply for citizenship and then later on in the future, the OMFS residency?
Hello! Thank you in advance for all the help, I’ve seen you answering patiently to all the questions.
So I have a question too. I will be graduating this year in September and my goal right now is to make it to USA. Taking in consideration that I’m not able to practice there, either and getting accepted to a university for some additional years it’s out of the question because of financial problems, I’m really interested in the Limited licensure that we can get by working in community centers or as full-time faculty. Do you have some more detailed information about that? I’m not linked to any state so I would take any opportunity. Also, I’ve been searching a lot on the internet but haven’t been successful. Thank you so much again and I’m looking forward for your answer.
Unfortunately that information is not compiled anywhere. You will have to check out individual university career pages to see if they have positions open and apply to them. Check if that specific state board will issue a limited faculty license. Once you get the position, then you can apply for the license.
It really’s tricky to choose the decent dentistry service, yet after reading
through, this guide it made me understand a lot and I will definitely try o follow your instruction in the future.
hi drs,
I found this link :http://www.ct.gov/dph/cwp/view.asp?a=3121&q=389288&dphNav_GID=1821
I have passed NBDE part 1 and 2 and I am going to apply for pediatric dentistry. do you know after completion of this course if I could work as a pediatric dentist in connecticut or new york or new jersey?
To work in Connecticut you must have completed a CODA specialty program in any state and additional 3 yrs post graduate training/fellowship/work as faculty in a Connecticut dental school.
New York and New Jersey requires you to have an American DDS meaning you need to go through an Advanced standing dental program/IDP.
Respected sir, thank you for all the informations given above. It is going to help foreign trained dentist (like me) a lot. One thing i want to ask is you nowwhere mentioned about National Board Dental Examination (NBDE) which is the most followed method in country like ours.
Thank you, Sincerely Dr. Sudip
NBDE exams alone don’t make you eligible to practice in any of the states in the US. This post specifically tackles the educational programs a foreign dentist pass have gone through in the US to apply for dental licensure in different states. To know step by step how to apply for dental licensure, check out my post http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/roadmap-admission-us-dental-school/
And specifically about NBDE, check out my post http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/national-board-dental-examination-nbde/
Hello, I am n American citizen with a Brazilian dental degree. At this moment I am taking a specialization in Dental Implants at a Federal University here in Brazil and an MBA as well.
The thing is that I wasn’t a great student back in the mid 2000s so I believe my GPA is around 2.3-2.6.
I was all about the practice back then.
After graduating ,I thought I didn’t want to be a dentist anymore. I understood more about the grades, . went to NYU , studied PMP , got great grades .
Came back to Brazil a few months back and decided to come back to Dentistry, as now I have a more Business understanding to if.
at school here in Brazil I am getting great grades as well. But I always got discouraged to apply for dental licensing in the US because of my grades back in the day when I went to dental school.
My question is:
Is there any consideration that they would accept me , if I pass the board exams , get specialized in Dental Implant Surgery and get an MBA ??
Thank you Very much.
No harm in applying. I have heard of people with low GPA still get accepted into US programs. Your resume is interesting enough that you may get interview calls to the Universities you apply to, the rest depends on how you can charm them in the face to face interview. All the best!
Thank you Meera! your message encouraged me.
Another Question: Is there a way i can open a dental office and become the head director or it without having a US DDS?
I appreciate your patience.
No unfortunately you cannot..you need a US DDS.
Thank you !
Hi Meera! I thank you for your patience in clarifying all individual queries. You are very helpful. I have done my MDS (Perio) from India and acquired diploma M Perio from Royal College Edinburgh. I am in a govt job since 1998 and practicing & teaching Perio since 2007. Can u guide me on my options..as a Periodontist in academics/clinics? Thank you
I don’t know how i missed your question!
To practice in the US as a Periodontist, you will need to go through a CODA approved Perio program in the USA. I have posts on my blog about the steps to apply to US schools. All the best!
Thank you Meera for gathering all this information. I want to specialize in Endodontology but I thought that I couldnt apply to a Florida License with only the specialty. You have listed Florida as one of the states that is possible to go straight as specialist. Of course, Florida Dental board do not say that loud. Are you sure about that info?
Thank you.
Under Florida law, if an applicant is a graduate of a dental college or school not accredited by CODA or of a dental college or school not approved by the board (e.g. foreign-trained dentist), the applicant is not entitled to take the examinations until he or she completes additional educational requirements. The applicant must complete a program of study at an accredited American dental school and must demonstrate receipt of a Doctor of Dental Surgery degree (D.D.S.) or Doctor of Dental Medicine degree (D.M.D.) from that school, or must complete a 2- year supplemental dental education program at an accredited dental school and receive a dental diploma, degree, or certificate as evidence of program completion.5
I got that from this page http://www.flsenate.gov/%5CPublishedContent%5CSession%5C2012%5CInterimReports%5C2012-127hr.pdf
Hi Meera,
Thank you for your response. It is very interesting that Florida dental schools may you think that you cannot practice if you graduate from a specialty program.
Thank you for that valuable information, now I can go for Endo and practice in Florida.
I would still advise you to email the board and get it in writing. Things change all the time and ultimately it is the respective State Boards that decide the rules.
Hello! It is splendid what you do here. Congrats!
I´m in the same situation as Meera. I want to come and practice in Florida, but I want to do a specialty program and get licensed directly. However, I´m a bit confused about this:
“or must complete a 2- year supplemental dental education program at an accredited dental school and receive a dental diploma, degree, or certificate as evidence of program completion”.
They don´t really specify, but my guess is that they are referring to the 2 year AEGD, don´t you think? I´ve written the Florida Board but gotten no response so far.
Thank you again!!
I think they are as well but I haven’t had much luck getting that in writing from the Florida Board either. Let me know if they reply to you. Also if anyone else has gone through this route or knows someone who has, please shed some light on this matter. Thanks.
Thank you for your response, Meera. I will let you guys know when (if) they respond. Although I understand this is key when deciding which path to take, so this info should be more accesible to us. Anyways, good luck to all.
Hi, Thanks for all the info. The Law in Florida says that the 2-suppleemental years are leading to a degree equal to a dds or dmd. I think they refer to a Advance Standing or AEGP. But I’m interested to know for sure too. I just wanted to let you know my opinion.
Since March 2012, Florida asks for 2 year supplemental education in a program for GENERAL DENTISTRY. Specialties NOT good enough.
Thanks for the reply! Looks like specialty is not enough then. The wording is “These programs (specialty) MAY NOT prepare dentists to become licensed to practice dentistry in Florida.”
I’m not sure is licensure by reciprocity still works then for specialty trained foreign dentists. Anyone has any insight on that?
what do you mean by reciprocity? That you do a specialty in another state, get license in that state and then apply for license in Fl? Not sure how it works, but laws in Florida are pretty harsh for foreign dentists… Let us know. If you are referring to a specialty done abroad in a non CODA accredited school, it will never be recognized in FL, sorry, I’m on the same boat.
Yes. I know FL is one of the states that accepts licensure by reciprocity but I’m not sure now about foreign dentists who have only the US specialty. I’ll write to the board and hope for a response..never got one before! It’s kinda sad that dental boards are not forthcoming with information that can impact people’s future plans.
Call them in the meantime, I once got an answer when I called. They are not trying to increase number of dentists in the state, so they are not in a hurry to answer. Pls post reply if you get it from them.
Hi Meera,
Thank you for your insight. it’s very helpful.
I am a Canadian board certified dentist and has been practicing in Canada for five years. however, I graduated from a non accredited dental school and went through qualifying process to become a certified dentist in Canada by taking exams. therefore, I am not holding a DDS from an accredited dental school.
I would like to move to California and practice there. what are my options?
Isn’t it compulsory to do 2 years at a Canadian dental school in order to get a license? Sorry for the off topic, I was just curious and wanted more details on the Canadian dental licensure process.
There are two pathways for graduates of non-accredited dental schools to become a certified dentist in Canada.
1-successful completion of an accredited Qualifying/Degree Completion Program( 2 years at a Canadian dental school)
2-successful completion of the NDEB Equivalency Process, which includes a couple of exams
Thanks for replying. But, in case the second pathway is chosen, don’t you have to be a permanent resident in order to give the last exam? After you complete all the exams, how do you go about the work permit?
Unfortunately it is the same as any other foreign dentist – you’ll have to write the exams, apply and get through a CODA approved dental program.
Thank you Meera for taking time to answer my questions.
I reviewd the websites and CODA programs. here is what I don’t understand.
iIf I go to specialty program in the US and become a certified specialist from accredited school, will I be able to work in California as specialist?
No. California requires a DDS/DMD but after a specialty program, you can work as faculty in a CA dental school for 3yrs or in another state for 3 yrs before you are eligible for licensure by reciprocity. Total 5yrs work experience but 2 yrs if your specialty program is credited to you.
Hi Meera,
Im a foreign tranied dentist. Currently Im in my 3d year or Perio Residency in the US and have passed WREB. I am planning on working in Texas for 3 years after graduation but after that I want to move to California!
Im extremely happy to read your comment!
Although I’m worried that this may change!?! What are your thoughts on that ?
I am in Illinois and Illinois is one of those states that starting January 2018, foreign trained dentist graduated from specialty program in the US cannot get license to practice in Illinois anymore!
In this political climate, everything is up for change so it’s hard to predict anything! I’m saddened to hear about Illinois!
Hi Meera,
Thankyou for this amazing post which has cleared so many misconceptions i had. I am a BDS graduate from Bangladesh.Is it possible to do MPH in usa and get licensure in that state? IDP and AEGD are very expensive for me. I would like to know whether an MPH from USA would be sufficient to get licensure in USA. I dont have any preferences regarding states as long as it is in USA.
In Texas, you can take DPH after an MPH and be eligible for a Texas dental license but I’m not sure who would hire you with an MPH, DPH since you won’t have any clinical experience. All the best!
Hi Meera!
I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing blog!
I just recently graduated from high school and I am about to enter a University for Dentistry in Spain. I am so relieved I found this article so I can prepare for the future.
Looking forward for more from you!
Hi,
Thank you for this information!!!!
very clear and informative!!!
i heard a rumor and i was wondering about it? Do you know what are the licensing law for foreign dentists in the state of Rhode Island?
thank you again and all the best,
Rachel
Hi Meera,
Thank you for your great effort. I think ADA website should have a link to your page!
I am a permanent resident foreign dentist with OMFS degree. I passed the NBDE and got a hygienist license in Fl, and I am working now.
1- What is the difference between Pass and match?
2- Are there any GPR programs offer a stipend?
3-What is the lest competitive option for me GPR, AEGD or IDP?
Ammar
Thanks for your kind words!
Pass and match are two very similar application systems. There are programs that are only in pass/match and those that are in both. Where you want to apply will determine which system you use.
There are GPR programs that offer stipends though I’m not sure which do.
Regarding least competitive, there is no data on something like that…you will have to just apply and hope for the best.
thank you, Meera for answering my questions.
I really appreciate your effort.
Hi. Are there any programs not requiring ndeb in the u.s?
The programs may not need it for you to apply or qualify for the admission but you will still need to do the NBDE before you can sit for the regional clinical exam that lets you qualify for any state licensure.
Hi Meera!
I appreciate you so much for creating this blog to explain all the options for foreigned trained dentists! It is so difficult to find this information otherwise. I am Writing this post on behalf of my husband. He is a foreign trained dentist as well as a maxillofacial surgeon. He has been practicing for over 10 years and is involved in many volunteer programs like Operation Smile and AOCMF. As far as we know, to practice as an oral or maxillofacial surgeon will take anywhere from 6-8 years. Is this correct, or do you know if there is a quicker option? He doesn’t mind practicing as just a general dentist either so if you think that is a better option please let me know. All suggestions are welcome! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks again!
also, do you know if there is there a specialty program for oral surgery only? And is there a possibility it could take less then 4-6 years, like the program for oral and maxillofacial surgery?
If he doesn’t mind practicing as a general dentist then that route will be the fastest. The only thing with that is that he won’t be able to be certified as an OMFS specialist with insurance (which means more money) or appear for US Board Certification. OMFS is a 4 or 6 year track.
Hi Meera, Thank you so much for this amazing website that can assist us aa foreign international dentist to practice in the USA. Let me ask you a question about my situation. I am a general dentist who has a BDS since 1999 from Baghdad University. I completed my NBDE! and my score in the TOEFL is 97. Actually, I am completely interested to have either DDS or DMD by following CAAPID application and other Universities that offer these two degrees. However, I called my friend who lives in Florida and who engaged recently in AEGD program for 1 year and the second year is optional for him. According to that, I started to make a search about this topic where I found your website.
My question is:
1- after reading all these information and comparing them with the Table at the beginning about the requirements for getting a license for a foreign dentist, we can say only Virginia can accept one-year AEGD program for practicing, and there is no other state where we can practice with one-year AEGD.
2-I am a permanent resident of Arizona. I did a search for AEGD program in AZ. SO I found one. SO do you think if I completed 1-year AEGD, I can practice in Virginia?
I did the search in Caapid search for AEGD. DO you think it is the correct place for finding AEGD program or there are any other sites?
3- Please can you tell me what is the difference between AEGD or GPR in both requirements and the opportunity to practice after completing these programs. Please, can you guide me to the correct website where I can find the precise information about AEGD or GPR for the foreign dentist?
Thank you so much for this spectacular infromation.
Most state licensure requirements state that they need a CODA approved dental program so I would advise you to search for the programs on
https://www.ada.org/en/coda/find-a-program/search-dental-programs#t=us&sort=%40codastatecitysort%20ascending
Unfortunately I don’t know of any website that has all the information complied.
All the best!
Thank you so much for all the information you have provided. I am a counselor for an Adult Education English program in Florida. We have so many highly skilled immigrants moving to Florida from Venezuela, and several of them have been dentists. This website will help me tremendously in my career counseling with them!
I’m glad you find it useful!!
Hi Meera,
You are doing such a fantastic job by helping all the internationals! Great work!
I am a practicing Endodontist in Michigan. I did not do the DDS program here. I finished my residency from UPenn, took the NBDE 1 and 2, WREB and written NERB. That being said, I am almost finishing 1 year of practice here. Me and husband would like to move to California sooner or later. From what I read on your blog, the reciprocity rule is 5 years. Do you know if that also includes the 2 years of residency as well? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
Hi Amruta,
This is not a response to your question but I had a question for you. When you say you did not do DDS program at UPenn, what do you mean ? Did you do your DDS program somewhere else ? Did you finish your BDS and/or MDS from India ? Can you get into residency directly at UPenn from a BDS/MDS degree from India ? Any information you can provide on this would be great.
HI Daniel,
I did my BDS from India. Then did an international Endo program for 1 year at UCLA. Also 1 year of research at Harvard. Many schools accept foreign trained dentists for the residency program and after taking all the exams you are eligible to practice in about 10 states. Although you are restricted this way, it is a way to practice specialty if you do not want to do DDS here. Go to the ADEA PASS website and you will find all the schools that accept foreign trained dentists for residency.
It is very tough to get into these residency programs this way..but hey..nothing is impossible!
Thank you for your response, Amruta. Can you tell me which the 10 states you refer to are ?
ALABAMA
ARIZONA
FLORIDA
GEORGIA
ILLINOIS
LOUISIANA
MAINE
MICHIGAN
MISSISSIPPI
NEW YORK
OHIO
OREGON 2
SOUTH DAKOTA
TEXAS 4
UTAH 3
VERMONT
WASHINGTON
WISCONSIN
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
This is the list I found. But they keep on changing the rules every now and then. I would strongly suggest to keep looking up for each state individually.
Thank you very much. Appreciate your input!
Thanks a lot; Are you sure that all these states issue license after graduating from residencies and specialties?
Unfortunately, I don’t think those states are correct. I have a post on this specifically
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/foreign-trained-dentist-practice-usa/
Any updates to this list?
Hello can i please contact you personally.
I hv question for endo residency. Will you please help
Hi Amruta,
Thank you for the kind words.
Regarding your question, you are right, two years of your residency is credited to the work requirement of 5 years and the rest can be fulfilled with private or faculty work experience.
All the best!
Thanks a lot for your reply Meera. That sounds really good.
Is it possible to connect to a resource that can confirm this rule? Also, will I have to take any additional examinations for California?
http://www.dbc.ca.gov/applicants/dds/lic_by_cred.shtml
Perfect! Thanks again!
2 years of Specialty is considered as experience. All the best!
Hey Meera, Thank you so much for taking the time to write these posts, they helped me a lot. I was feeling lost at first, but when i read your posts i felt like everything came together. I’m a student and when i finish school I’d like to move to the US, I have a few questions, it would really help me out if you answer them.
1. Do refugees have any advantages/disadvantages? those 5 options that are listed above apply for refugees as well?
2. I’m not sure yet, but i think I’d like to do a specialty program in orthodontics without getting a DDS first, do you think i can later open up my own practice or is it because i don’t have a DDS i can’t? I don’t know where I’m settling yet, so you can choose any state if you want to give an example.
3. I can’t afford to get into a specialty program, so I’m planning to take a loan, is that possible if i’m a refugee? Tuition fees of a specialty program is about $150,000, is it possible to get such a big loan and do you think it’s a good idea?
4. As I’ve said earlier I’m a student so when i move to the US i won’t have any work experience, my questions is that i probably won’t get accepted to GPR or AEGD without work experience right?
I know these are a lot of questions, but i really hope you can answer them so atleast i’ll have an idea on what to do. Thanks in advance!
Refugees have additional options with regard to their immigration status but not in terms of dental education- you will have the same options as the rest of the FTD’s.
You can be accepted for specialty without DDS but for Ortho that’s highly competitive so your chances are very limited. You can get licensed in the states that let you apply with a specialty degree. You can put up your own practice once you have a green card.
You can take a loan but you will need a co-signer for your loan.
Work experience is always a plus but it doesn’t hurt to explain your situation while your applying to programs, you never know if you will get accepted.
Hi Meera
Is there any short courses or diploma for dentist from India.
Could you please recommend 3 to 6 months courses in or around Texas or any place in US. I am currently in Dallas Texas. working as RDA for about 7 years.
Hi Meera I was going through some information on indeed that a FTD (Foreign trained dentist) can become Hygienist without having to go school and taking directly state exam and some other exam. This is permissible only in Florida. I think this is very good info missing on many forums. Could you please explain this. http://floridasdentistry.gov/licensing/dental-hygienist/
This is true, it is a great option for FTD’s.
There are no short courses that will let you be eligible for state dental licensure. For 3-6 month courses, you can contact UT houston but you will have entry as an RDA – I’m not sure about dental courses for FTD.
I mean short courses not to take exam here but to get credentials so when I return to home country I can put it by my name. Like bds(fage)
Hi Dr. Meera
i am very grateful for this valuable information and for your precious help. May God help you and reward you in every aspect. I just need to have information about how a foreign orthodontic lecturer can get back on track, what should I do and where. I desperately need your help and advice in this. thank you again for this marvelous blog.
Thank you for the kind words but I’m not sure how I can help you. You will either have to graduate a CODA approved dental program or apply for faculty positions in any university that has openings. All the best!
HI DR. Meera,
your post is very helpful. i have done my bds from india and got to know about act programs in ucla. i wanted to know whether these programs allow you to work as a dentist in usa?
whether graduates of this program get opt period? and for how many years?
if we dont get h1b in opt period what are the options we can choose to work for few years as a dentist in usa if we arent planning for dds?
Unfortunately ACT programs are not CODA approved so you will be able to apply for state licensure to work as a dentist.
To be eligible to apply for OPT, you must: (1) have been in full-time student status for at least one academic year by the requested start date of your OPT, and (2) be maintaining valid F-1 status at the time of the application, and (3) have not used OPT at the same degree level previously.
If OPT expires and you have not received your H1b through the lottery, either you have to go back to school (on an F1) or apply for university jobs (they can apply for H1b throughout the year)
Ok which states allow act program graduates to work as a dentist?
What kind of university jobs can i apply on the basis of this degree?
And then will i be able to get the visa through lottery only? Is there only 1 year of opt? It will be great if u elaborate more about h1b visa if i dnt get it within my opt. And also can i work der on h4 visa?
I don’t think you got my reply before..ACT programs are not CODA approved so you will not be eligible for dental licensure in any state. You will have to go through a CODA approved IDP, GPR, AEGD or specialty program.
There is one year of OPT within which you apply for the H1b lottery. If you don’t get it, you have to either join another educational program to get an F-1 visa to stay in the country or see if any university will accept you as faculty (they can apply for H1b visas throughout the year)
You cannot work on H4.
Ok mam. But on the ucla website they have mentioned that few states allow act graduates for licensure.
Those states still need CODA approved 2 year programs. I would advise you to contact the ACT program and ask if they know of anyone who has received their dental license after the course. It would be great to know.
Hello, do you know any way to find out which university faculty will accept you and give you faculty license?
No I don’t. You’ll have to email them separately.
Hello, thanks for your post
I am a foreign trained dentist from Ukraine who will be graduating 2018 by God’s Grace. I want to do residency in OMFS directly I.e license by specialty. I don’t have any state in particular. I read earlier on other post on stipends that are being paid. Is the stipend able to cover for tuition fees. Thanks in advance .
Unfortunately, I don’t have much information about this. Best thing would be to email some of the OMFS programs directly.
hello , i am a foreign trained dentistry student in ukraine too. and i would love to know if you found any infos about that.
Thank you for all the insight you give us!
I wanted to ask something: I know that one before applying must have some US experience, therefore I found some preceptorship, but many are very expensive and that’s why it limits my chances in this regard…So my question is : Are 6 months worth it, or it must be necessarily a year ? Do universities want long periods by all means?
No, they don’t really care about the time frame. The question they will ask is what have you learned from your time in a US program. That’s something you can work into your Statement of Purpose when you apply.
hello sir ..what is the procedure to work in usa( virginia state) after masters in dental surgery(mds)
The same as any other state:
Please read my blog posts on this :
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/roadmap-admission-us-dental-school/
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/foreign-trained-dentist-practice-usa/
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/foreign-trained-dentist-moving-usa/
Hiiii and special thanks for one of the best useful websites ever.
Could you please tell me how I can find more valuable information about GPR/AEGD , and how dIfficult it is to be accept?
Many thanks in advance
Unfortunately, I don’t know much about them. You can find the CODA approved programs here and then contact them directly
https://www.ada.org/en/coda/find-a-program/search-dental-programs#t=us&sort=%40codastatecitysort%20ascending&f:ProgramName=%5BAdvanced%20Education%20in%20General%20Dentistry%2012%20Months,Advanced%20Education%20in%20General%20Dentistry%2024%20Months,General%20Practice%20Residency%2012%20Months,General%20Practice%20Residency%2024%20Months%5D
Hi, thank you for the information.
I have a question, is Orofacial pain is considered as a speciality ?if I attend a two year coda accredited Orofacial pain program Would it qualify me to practice? If so where?
Unfortunately no, it is not a CODA approved specialty. This site gives you the CODA approved dental programs.
https://www.ada.org/en/coda/find-a-program/search-dental-programs#t=us&sort=%40codastatecitysort%20ascending
First of all thank your help .
I am very interested to get a dental limited license such as that in Boston ,but I have no idea how can I get it ,how to apply or where can I get a reliable information in terms of how to find that kind of job
Thank you in advance
Unfortunately, cant help you there. I would try Universities, community clinics etc but immigration might be an issue for them. They will prefer people already living in the US.
Hello!
I want to know if I can apply for a GPR program without a permanent US residency and after I finish it pursue for a US residency.
Ps. I’m a foreign trained dentist with just an US visitor visa.
Thank you in advance.
You can apply to dental programs with a US residency and if you get accepted, you will get a student visa. Once you graduate, you have one year to find a job and get a work visa. Then you can apply for your Green card as well.
Hi thanks so much, I really find this information provided here very useful.
I will soon complete my PhD in Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery in China.
Thus am enquiring if there’s a possibility of directly practicing as a faculty academic in dental school in US?
Yes, I have come across foreign dentists who practice as faculty but I don’t know of a common resource that compiles that information anywhere. You will have to contact individual Universities and ask if they will be interested.
Hai Meera
Thank you so much for your patience in replying for all the questions. You are doing a wonderful job.
I have completed oral and maxillofacial pathology. Could you please guide me how to get a limited dental liscence ,as my husband is working in H1 visa.
So I’m guessing you are already in the US. The best option would be to find a University position or work in a community clinic/hygiene school etc that would be willing to file an H1b visa for you as well. Or work as a dental assistant – some states do not require any further education and you would be able to earn a little!
Hello! I have no words to thank you for such incredible information that you posted in this blog, it really is the only one i found helpful Congrats on it!!.
Now i have a question i’m starting the Masters in Periodontics in UF however in your blog I found that Florida allows you to get a license if you get a CODA certified specialty but several foreign trained friends had to leave the state because they ask for an AEGD nor a GPR to be able to be elegible to take the state board.
I’m still thinking about my options and need to clarify the states that allows me to have a license besides Texas, Minnesota and Virginia. I will for sure appreciate your help on which are the other states that allows a foreign trained dentist with a Periodontics Master from a CODA program to be elegible for a license.
Again thank you for this incredible information that you share.
From what I know, you are eligible as long as you take the Florida state licensing exam. But I would not base my future on second-hand information. I would advise you to email the Florida dental board and ask them directly.
http://floridasdentistry.gov/contact/
Until 2012 Florida accepted any 2 year studies in a CODA accredited school, including specialty in order to qualify for the state board. That changed in 2012 when they decided you need two years studies in GENERAL DENTISTRY only, meaning doing a specialty in a CODA accredited school will NOT qualify you for the state board. They had a provision for people that had already started a specialty at that time to allow them to go to the state board after 2012, but that’s long gone. I’m almost sure there hasn’t been any change in licensure requirements in Fl, but if so, please update all of us!
Yes that was my understandig unfortunately. We just have to wait and see what changes in the future about this law.
Perfect, great job
Hello Dr. Mera you are doing a woderful work thanksss.
My question is I thinking to apply to La salle wich is a dental school out site of U.S but it is acreditaded by the board of california, I do not problem working in california but if one day after 5 years, I would get a licence in other state by reciprocy licence? Thank you again.
My before comment has some mistakes sorry, this is the correct question.
Hello Dr. Mera you are doing a woderful work thanksss.
My question is I thinking to apply to La salle wich is a dental school in Mexico but it is acreditaded by the board of california, I do not problem working in california but if one day after 5 years practice, I would like to get a dental licence in other state by reciprocy licence, I could do it? Thank you again.
Unfortunately, La Salle University is not ADA or CODA approved and so will not fulfill the other state requirements. You will be able to practice in California.
hi .
this is really valuable information but i am still confuced …i am from pakistan i am done my DDS degree from Kyrgyzstan…now i am back in pak …so if i want to apply for us…what should i do? i have to give nbde exam ? or what thinga i should do?
Please read my blog posts on this :
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/roadmap-admission-us-dental-school/
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/foreign-trained-dentist-practice-usa/
http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/foreign-trained-dentist-moving-usa/
hello Dr. Meera,
Firstly, thank you very much for sharing this post. I finished my BDS from india , worked at a NPO { Non Profit Organization } for two years. I passed my NBDE part 1 and 2 recently . Presently i am gearing up to give TOEFL . I am rite now in washington and thinking of living here. Your post said that i can practice dentistry here with GPR or AEGD programs of 2 yrs. I went through the requirements. I came to know that lastly Dental Quality Assurance commision approval of my degree as well as the college i studied is needed to get the license to practice. Would you mind sharing some insight on this.
Best Regards,
Tsering
It’s basically a board made up of 12 WA state licensed dentists who will decide on your case to see if you qualify for the WA license. If you meet the requirements needed for the state, there shouldn’t be a problem.
Thank u very much for the information
Hi Tsering,
My to be wife is kind of in a similar situation. She has done BDS from India and will be here with me in WA. I want to know how did your case go? Did you get qualified? Any other information necessary would also be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Chithresh Azad
Hi Meera,
This is Patricia, I have been practicing in WA state for 9 years. I got my DDS from non accredited dental school. I did 2 years of AEGD at the university of Maryland (2006-2008). I was contemplating the possibility of moving to Tennessee or Florida. Can I have a dental license by credentials of these two states? Thank you very much for your reply!!!!
Florida does not have licensure by reciprocity unfortunately but you do qualify for the FL licensure by examination if your AEGD is CODA approved. I would email/call the FL licensing dept directly for more info.
You are eligible for licensure by reciprocity in Tennessee.
I am an MSc postgraduate from the university of manchester, UK.
I have kids. So i dont have much time for studies or exams. What are the chances here to work in the US.
P.S we did not settle yet in any state. Its according to where i can find a job.
Can u help?
Unfortunately, that is very hard to say…I would recommend some of the universities who have posted job vacancies on their websites and email the directors to ask if they would consider you for a faculty position. You may need to work full-time to get a limited faculty license in the state but it is one way to work without studying any further. This needs some work on your part as there is no website that consolidates this information for you – it’s purely based on each school Board’s policy whether they hire foreign dentists as faculty.
Another option is to work as a dental assistant – some states do not require further education and this lets you be in this environment and make some money as well.
Immigration will be another challenge for you depending on what your status will be when you migrate here – whether you will need a work visa or you will have a green card.
Hi,
The blog was really helpful! Much thanks!
Can you please tell if an Orthodontist (foreign trained) gives Board exam for Orthodontics plus NDBE ….then is he/she allowed to work as an Orthodontist without having to do DDS or DMD…????
No you can’t. Only option is to work in a dental school. Anything else, either you do a DDS in the US or redo the ortho residency and apply for license in one if the few states that Will grant a license with CODA accredited residency . Sad but true
hi meera
amazing blog ! the information is very blog and i m sure so many people will benefit from this.
i have done my BDS from INDIA foloowed by MDS from india itself. right now i am working in a teaching hospital in africa.
i was wondering if it will be possible for me to get admission into a good university to do ORAL PATHOLOGY speciality again that can further allow me to practice as an oral pathologist in the same state. if so, could you please tell me the name of the universities.
i really i am not interested to take any exam or go in for DDS or DMD program.
hope to get a reply soon.
thanks a lot
This website gives you the names of Accredited Oral Medicine programs in the US/Canada
https://www.aaom.com/residency-programs
and this for the Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology programs
http://www.aaomp.org/continuing-education/advanced-educational-programs/
All the best!
When did the requirement to validate the foreign training for dentists in the US became effective?
My Mexican-trained dentist says that in the 1980’s, he was not required to take extra training to practice in Florida, only had to pass the tests.
It was at different points in different states and they did to limit the number of foreign dentists migrating into the state/getting licensed.
Thank you for this information. My sister is a US Citizen (born here), graduated from high school in the US and completed her degrees/specialty in the Dominican Republic. She is a Periodontist in the Dominican Republic and has been practicing for about a decade or more. She is looking to move back to the US but is unsure what is the best route for her. We considered the Tufts International Dental Program for Foreign-trained Dentists but were wondering if there was another route for her. Any help is greatly appreciated.
I think she can apply to an AEGD, GPR or dds, it depends where she wants to practice.
I agree with Grace – it will all depend on her. Where she wants to live, how much she wants to spend on education, does she want to practice as a GP/Specialist etc. Since the International programs have more seats available than Specialties, that would give her more chances of getting in. Where to apply is up to your sister. All the best!
Great article.
Thank you!
Hello does anyone know where I can find a list of current GPR programs for the 2019 cycle? I cannot find anywhere. THank you for your help.
ADEa Pass
Search for 12 month/ 24month GPR programs on this website
http://programpages.passweb.org/search
In Connecticut you can get a limited faculty license when you have completed a 2 consecutive years of AEGD residency and you must have an unlimited license from a different state. You must work for the state of CT as a full time faculty under a limited license for 5 years ( they take into account your residency years if you did them in CT at UConn). Then you are eligible to have an unlimited license.
Thank you Pamela for the info! Appreciate it!
My husband is a foreign trained dentist from Ecuador. He has been in the USA as a citizen for 18 years, and he is now wanting to become a orthodontist. We are trying to find the shortest path for his to become a orthodontist or a DDS with the ability to perform orthodontia work. He is concerned with passing the NBDE 1&2, alone with just studying on his own, given the difficulty of the subjects and the time since he has been in school. I really have 3 questions, 1 best resources for classes/workshops for passing the boards? 2. Shortest path to becoming a DDS or orthodontist, we will consider moving anywhere. 3. Are there consultants to help with this sort of thing?
1. I know there is a KAPLAN has a prep course online, here’s the website (https://www.kaptest.com/nbde). Also, try joining Facebook or SDN groups for NBDE – find someone in your area willing to do combined study either face to face or through Skype. That gives you an accountability partner.
2. There is no shortcut, why? Because there is no surefire method of getting into schools/programs. What I do know though is if your husband wants to practice as an orthodontist (meaning the insurance companies pay him as a specialist and not as a general dentist doing ortho) he must graduate from a CODA approved ortho program. It is one of the most competitive specialty to get into and the majority will need DDS so I think getting into an International dental program, earning a DDS and then applying for Ortho programs (esp in the same school as your IDP) will be the best course for you.
3. I don’t know of any consults to help you navigate this. I know there are people that can help write your statement letter/CV and prepare you for interviews/bench tests (that may be an option once you get interview calls) but not people who help you with exam prep and applications.
Thanks, I was reading the post. Where can I find the help you said to write purpose statement and benchmark test? You can post here or privately esperanzamiaf@gmail.com
Appreciate it.
About the original question that was asked on this thread- agree there are no shortcuts. Some states may grant licenses after specialties, many other don’t. Florida for example wants two years general dentistry , not specialty.
Thanks for the reply!
I am confused when I read articles, see below. In the case of this article, it appears as though she skipped some schooling and went straight to an externship and then a masters program, do you have any knowledge of this?
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/2018-05-30/how-foreign-dentists-can-get-us-degrees-training
That article featured me and that’s the route I took. I was fortunate that the Perio program in LLU did not insist on a US DDS but as far as I know almost all Otho programs require a US DDS. That part of the research is up to you..you can contact the US ortho programs and see if there are any that accept foreign dentists directly and see if your husband can apply there.
HAHA I thought it was you but did not want to assume. So you are able to practice now as a periodontist with no limitations in texas? We are in texas, as well.
Yes
Hello
Thank you for your great and useful comments. I’m a foreign trained dentist. What if I want to work in US as a dental assistant? Am I eligible to get H1B visa or not? Is it enough that an American dentist states that he needs me in his office as a dental assistant?
As long you find a dentist willing to file an H1b for you and the state laws allow you to practice without further studies (there may be some exams/registrations required), you should be eligible to practice. You will need to apply for a social security number which you can once you get your offer letter.
With the route you took, did you have to pass the NBDE 1 & 2 at some point?
Yes I passed both before I joined the Perio program
Yes, both.
Hi , I would like to know if you can help me with my question wich is , would I be able to apply for maxiofacial surgery in US Universities, if I got my DMD in Europe?
Best Regards,
No that I know. Since maxillofacial residents will be essentially working in a hospital setting (and getting paid), they will need a US dental license before they can be accepted into a program. So you will have to get an equivalent US DDS to be able to apply to OMFS.
The state of Illinois says a foreign trained dentist needs 2 years of clinical experience from an approved dental college/university or “In the alternative, certification, from the program director of an accredited advanced dental education program approved by the Division, of completion of no less than 2 academic years may be substituted for the 2 academic years of general dental clinical training.”
Is this alternative the GPR or AEGD that you mention? It’s not clear to me what the alternative option in Illinois is.
Hello Dr.Meera:
Thank you for this useful website. I am a foreign trained dentist, and want to practice in NewYork.
Does the specialty program fulfill the educational requirement for licensure?
Thank you
Unfortunately not for New York.
Hello Dr.Mira:
Thanks alot for the reply, but do you know a reliable source that says NY doesnt accept licensure by specialty?Because the Board website does not make it clear, and it is very confusing.
I would advise you to email the board or call the office directly.
Hello
This is a very informative website.
I request for a suggestion for various options for me for practicing in USA.
I have done BDS and MDS in Oral Maxillofacial Surgery from India. Presently i am doing 2 year CODA approved program in Orofacial Pain. I am in process of giving NBDE Part 1 and 2 exam.
After completing the 2 year Orofacial pain program what will be various options for me so that i will be able to obtain dental license and can practice dentistry in USA.
I would suggest looking at job opportunities, look at the state it’s advertised from and then look up the individual state dental board website/ contact them directly to see if you are eligible for state licensure. Some states specify just requiring 2 yr advanced education while some specify certain CODA approves specialties (which may or may not include Orofacial pain). I am not aware of any list that has sorted this out already.
Hello !
Please help me to understand…
I am a Dentist from Macedonia and i have a dental Diplom from Munich( i have made it equvivalenz or how i can say that). I like to try in USA to become a normal General Dentist. Please tell me how i can get there easy. I dont have Money to spend. I like to take automatic or 2 years to become something like limited license. I like to earn money and then i can study too when is necessery….
Please help me with some replays…it will ve very usefull for me. I dont have experiance with the USA Dental System.
Tnx a lot !
Unfortunately you will be considered a foreign dentist so you will have to graduate through a US dental program (can be DDS or a specialty). You can get a limited license to teach/work only in a dental university but you will need to apply to individual dental schools and see if they are willing to employ you. You will also need a work visa so that will add to the list of requirements. If you manage to find a job with a university, they can apply for the work visa. Otherwise, you will have to come on a visit visa, write all the exams required to be able to apply to US dental schools and then if you get selected, the university will give you a student visa. Unfortunately those are the only options. All the best!
Hi
I am a Canadian Dentist got licence in Canada by NDEB equivalency. Suggest me a way I can get into practising in USA.
From what I know, if you got your Canadian dental license through directly getting into the dental program, you are eligible to apply for US dental licensure. This does not hold true if you got your license through the NDEB equivalency – then you will still be considered a foreign dentist and require graduating from a US dental program.
Hi! i I really enjoyed this article and it helped me understand my situation a little better. However, I have two questions, how important are grades when applying to a Specialty Program? If so, what is considered a competitive ECE gpa/score? I am an American currently studying abroad and my grades are slightly above average. Also, how important do my past grades weigh on my admittance (ex. old DAT scores, undergrad GPA, NBDE attempts).
Thanks in advance!
This depends on each school/program – the weightage for each criteria is set by the admissions board but they are flexible. If they feel you are a good fit for them, then none of these parameters matter. If you are not strong in these areas, have an honest reason for why you are lacking in this area but highlight your strengths so they are left with more positives than negatives about you. All the best!
Hi.. Thanks for making this easy for us. I should be graduating as an endodontist in June 2019 (2 years specialty program). I am not sure what states I will be eligible to work in. I know Texas is a big one in that list. Looking at the map you have put up, I believe Florida and Illinois are currently not an option. Do you have a more updated list ? Or can you guide me where can I get the list from ? I need to start applying for jobs. I will really appreciate your help and guidance.
I do have to put up an updated list. I’m not able to give the blog as much time as I thought I could since my situation at home has changed (we are adding to the brood!) but it’s on the back of my mind and I will get to it hopefully.
There is no general list, hence the reason for starting this blog. You will have to go to individual dental board websites to know the rules (they change so often) or email/call the board directly.
Hey Meera. Thanks for the reply. I have got a job offer and I have signed my contract. I have been busy with my residency and did not get a chance to come back here to check on your response. I can understand your brooding situation. I am sure you and your family will do great. Best of luck in all you do. Thanks again. This is a commendable effort from your end.
Hello,
This is a great site – thank you. My question is a little different. Did you have any issues finding a job/starting a practice in Texas having attended the specialty program in CA? I would assume that the time in the specialty program is important for establishing connections, understanding the local work environment, etc. Thank you in advance.
Finding a job isn’t impossible, but you will have to network online – there are recruiters, corporate companies, ads on different association pages and worst case scenario – cold call or email owner dentists directly. There is a disadvantage to not being able to use the contacts you made while in school in California but it’s not the end of the world.
Hello,
I am a BDS degree holder from India, and got admitted to a Operative Dentistry (MSD) program here in the US. I just realized this specialization is not one of the 9 dental specializations that the ADA- CODA accredited. Would this be an issue in the future if I decide to seek license, practice after I graduate?
Please advise
Thank you
Yes but only in states that specify the CODA specialties that they accept. Some states just mention they need any CODA approved dental program.
Thank you ma’am for the comment, but the problem is I could not find “Operative Dentistry” listed in the ADA-CODA Advanced education program webpage.
https://www.ada.org/en/coda/find-a-program/search-dental-programs#q=indiana&t=us&sort=%40codastatecitysort%20ascending&f:programs=%5BAdvanced%20Dental%20Education%20Programs%5D
Then you can apply only to states that do not specify CODA and require just 2 yr advanced dental education
Thank you again for your time, quick reply
hello doctor,thanx for the valuable information.if i want to practice in miami in near future ,what are the available options to get license as foreign dentist to practice and open clinic in miami in near future?also i want to know how to go for the preparation and study material and what all to study and how?if i can get a detailed knowledge about the same.thanx
Please go through the posts on my blog..I have already explained the steps to getting US licensure in detail.
Regarding putting up a practice, you also need to have a green card to do that – if you are planning to be on a student visa and then switch to an employment based work visa, then assuming you are born in India, you will take 8-10 years to get approved for a green card (because of the current backlog).
Dr Rachna: in order to be able to sit the licensing test in Fl, you need two consecutive years of studies in general dentistry in a CODA accredited program (specialization for example is not good) .
Hello Dr Meera.I really do appreciate the time and love you put and still putting.
Thank you so much as many people like suffered for years to get these valuable informations.Actually i did an AEGD program at Boston University back in 1999 and went back to my country Lebanon.Now i am 44 and wish to move with my family back to the USA.I have 2 questions please:
1-What are the states where i can work with the fastest time the less exams.
2-Is there a way to practice without
sitting the NBDE (if you are highly qualified and recommended by your AEGD faculty?)
3-How much time and study do the NBDE involve?
Thank you sooo much for your kindness
any f those is possible possible without NBDE part 1 and 2?
How can I ask the TN program, would you have any contact so that I can go detail with them. Thanksin advance.
How can I ask the TN program, would you have any contact so that I can go detail with them. Thanks in advance.
Hi Dr Meera,
I’ve just finished grad school for orthodontics in Michigan after having studied dentistry in Germany. Unfortunately the list of states you are allowed to work in with a foreign DDS and a US specialty degree are not any more what you indicated. As far as I know, we can only work in MI, MN, LA, OH, VA, WA, IN, TX. If I’m wrong please let me know!
Best,
Silja
hey , i also graduated in Europe, and now want to go to residency after 2 years of school, took boards and when you say work in those 8 states , you mean work for full salary as Ortho or you work in faculty for almost nothing money ?
Yes… idk how you feel about teaching. You can teach in every state… but if you intend to work outside of a university setting you’re limited to the states I mentioned. Where in Europe are you from?
hy tnx for a quick replay, i did graduate in italy and i gave a green card so i will do residency direct , pretty simliar like you did, so i was wondering is it worth it , bcs i am scared when i am done that i have to work like 5-7 more years for like 50k . just need a good advice and you are kinda perfect example like me same european system. also my friend from Croatia did the same he went for Perio on Ucon, and now he is getting offers from Dubai crazy money , so he wa thinking to go for 1 y to return all loans ( maybe you can see if you are intrested too , just to share what i know ) . So we can work exmpl. in Seattle or Dallas as regular specialist ? thank you Silja
Ciao Marco! Possiamo anche parlare in italiano. Io ho fatto la residency a Michigan, ma nn ho la green card. Ho giustamente finito il mio anno di optional practical training (lavori con un visa di studente) che ho passato lavorando a Louisiana. Si, poi andare a lavorare in Texas o Washington state (ma nn c’è mai lavoro a Seattle). L’altra possibilità e lavorare a l’università per due a cinque anni e obtenire un DDS lavorando da faculty (you can make a deal with the university). A proposito, solamente per avvertiti, e molto difficile obtenire il riconoscimento in Europa. Sì, ho anche pensato a lavorare a Dubai…. perché non darmi il tuo contatto sarà meglio communicare così…
hey sì, sono felice di farlo, così possiamo mandare un messaggio di posta elettronica. sono così spaventato che so solo di finire la residenza e di essere tipo “omg ora devo lavorare ancora per i prossimi 5 anni per 50k” più prestiti agli studenti.
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Hi Meera,
You’ve done a great job by putting all these pieces together. So if someone has completed a specialty program (let’s say periodontics) outside the US, that is not recognized there at all? He/She will be treated the same way as a general dentist?
I also have a suggestion. It would be nice if you add a section to website so anyone who has made it to the end share their stories along the whole path.
Thanks a lot
Yes
Treated as a general dentist. As far as I understand, unfortunately. your abroad specialty will never be recognized in the US, unless your program was CODA accredited when you did it.
Yes, Specialty from abroad is unfortunately not recognized in the US. You will need to go through some sort of CODA approved dental program to even practice as a general dentist.
Your suggestion is a good one – I will try to get some people to share their stories. Thank you and all the best!
hi,first of all i want to thank you,for your time and the information.2 weeks ago i came from Albania.i am a dentist with 8 years of experience.if its possible i want to know where ta start it. THANK YOU AGAIN
Start with getting your ECE scores and getting through all the exams (TOEFL, NBDE) before applying for the two year international programs.
Hi Dr. Meera
Thank you so much for this wonderful blog that’s really of great help for dentists trying to work here
I am a periodontist with my bachelors and masters from India
Am currently in the US on an F2 visa
I have done my ECE evaluation and am working on my NBDE
As I am already in Massachusetts-I am looking to settle here
Could you guide me if I do a MS in perio ,can Ipractice in Mass? Or which are the states I could practice in ?
Also if I do masters from one state can I practice in the others that accept the masters degree
If you have answers to your doubts, let me know, as I too am curious regarding this
Hello there…. i am doing my masters in dental surgery(mds) in Periodontology and oral implantology in china.after my mds i want to go Usa for practising dentistry.And my question is what should i do to practise dentistry after my mds??? And next question is-Can i join phd after my mds and what are the criteria to find a phd degree under scholarship???? Looking positive response to my queries.. have a nice day thankyou so much….
You will follow the same steps as everyone else – I have written a post on the steps to practicing in the USA. http://www.foreigndentistinusa.com/roadmap-admission-us-dental-school/
I don’t know much about PhD programs unfortunately.
All the best!
Hi mam I am interested in perio speciality in USA. I have heard that the states allowing to practice as a periodontist without DDS has decreased ? Right now which states allow to practice?
And is it true that non citizens are considered mainly for faculty license? Which states allow faculty license?
Hi
I am a general dentist in Canada. I got my license by direct licensing ( exams) without going to university for 2 years. Is there any way or rules that I can work in the US without going to university for 2 years ( International Programs)?
Thanks,
Fara
Hi. I can’t thank you enough for this wonderful blog. It’s awesome. Let me ask you a question, please. Does Illinois still accept a Residency Program for license from a foreign-trained dentists? Because I know this Ortho resident that told me they have not allowed him to get the IL license. Thank you!!!
They changed it in 2018! Illinois no longer accepts foreign trained dentists with only US specialty degrees.
Other resources for getting US DENTAL LICENSE FOR FOREIGN TRAINED DENTISTS
https://www.foreigntraineddentist.net/
Hello Dr.
I have a question regarding specializing after finishing the 2 years IDP and obtaining a DDS from usa, what are the steps? and is it considered a residency? and do you have to pay for it or you get paid? considering that i am an international dentist
All specialties will be open to you to apply after graduating from a DDS program. The steps are individual to the program you are applying to – check their websites. Programs at state schools sometimes provide a stipend but will be barely enough to cover your tuition (harder for foreign dentists to get into). Most programs will require tuition fees without any stipend.
Hello
I am international dentist and I made both NDBE and TOEFL test. I live in Florida and I want to know if after do an AEGD program at Temple University ( Philadelphia) when I was invited for interview I will be ready to get the Florida license?
Hi! I recently found out about this post and i wanted to know which way is the Best. I gratuated from DDS from El Salvador and wanted to take advantage of my age and also my status and i really really want to move from here, so what would you recommend?
I can’t recommend something like that to you. This information is here for you to make an informed choice. Please read my other posts for more important information. If you have specific questions regarding the process, feel free to ask.
Hello…I am about to complete my masters in Endodontics in India and I wanted to practice in us..so I wanted to know will the procedure be the same?do I need to take nbde and repeat the entire process again
Hello! Thank you for your very informative post; I’ve found it greatly encouraging and helpful. Do you know whether my GPA in dental school would contribute as a major factor to whether I will be able to practice in the United States?
It is one of the major factors though different universities given different weightage to these factors. Having a good GPA just gives you one more factor to impress them.
No, your GPA does not matter when you are interviewed for a job.
Very helpful site!
I live in Northern California, and wish for my international dentist partner to join me here, but dread the massive debt required to obtain a US DDS/DMD. Am I correct to understand that an alternative path for us to live in CA in the long term, might be for my partner to:
1. Obtain licensure by examination (without further schooling) in Minnesota.
2. Practice in Minnesota for 5 years
3. Move to California and obtain licensure by credential
Is this a feasible pathway?
Yes you would be eligible for Licensure by Credential (LBC3)
Requirements:
• Must have a current, unrestricted license to practice dentistry in a U.S. State or territory
• 5,000 hours of clinical practice in the last 5-7 years (minimum of 1,000 hours per year)
• OR 2-year pending contract to work in an underserved California clinic or accredited dental education program
• Not required to graduate from an ADA/CODA approved school
• Fingerprint clearance from the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Investigation Bureau (FBI)
• Information that the applicant has not failed the WREB examination in the last 5 years
• Completion of 50 hours of continuing education including mandatory courses
Getting Minnesota licensure is not easy so understand that this route will take a couple of years to accomplish. All the best!
Hola muy buen sitio, gracias por toda la informacion.
Tengo una duda que no he podido aclarar aun, soy odontologa mexicana y me gustaria trabajar en el paso texas primero como asistente dental para posteriormente inscribirme en el college para higienista dental. Encontre una lista de informacion de pasos a seguir para poder obtener la licencia de asistente dental que son los siguientes:
1. Carnet de CPR
2. Curso de asistente dental online donde recibira su verificacion.
3. Banco de data nacional (NPDB), sobre con informacion confidencial de su banco de datos, historial profesional.
4. Aplicar a la certificacion de asistente dental por TSBDE (tener social security para este paso).
5. certificacion de documentos, entre otros mas requisitos que hay que enviar al TSBDE.
Mi duda es primero que nada que tipo de visa o permiso tengo que solicitar para obtener un estado migratorio que me permita aplicar a la cerfificacion de asistente dental y de que manera solicitaria un social security si aun no obtengo la licencia o permiso de trabajo y por lo tanto no puedo ir a buscar un trabajo de asistente dental o que ellos me ayuden con alguna carta porque en todos los trabajos te piden la licencia para poder entrevistarte etc.
ojala me pudieran orientar.
Gracias
Hola, la verdad no soy un entendido en temas migratorios, pero si te aseguro que el estado de Texas no exige una licencia de asistente para trabajar como asistente, (si para realizar los rx) obvio es mas dificil obtener un trabajo si no tienes la licencia, pero es legal. Espero haberte ayudado en algo.
Meera,
My wife is from Venezuela, graduated from dental school there in the 1980s, relocated to CA in the early 2000’s, was licensed in CA and has been practicing general and cosmetic dentistry since that time, and has owned and operated her own very successful practice for 15 years. We are considering relocation to the US Virgin Islands due to my potential job change (she is planning to sell her practice anyway), and I’m trying to help find out if she can obtain a licence in the VI without significant additional education or training. She has continued education only as required to maintain her license. She wants to possibly start a small practice in VI to stay active and maintain some income (semi-retire).
Thanks
Unfortunately from what I understand, VI requires DDS or specialty from an ADA approved dental program. This is true for licensure by examination and by credentials.
https://doh.vi.gov/sites/default/files/Dental-Dental%20Hygienist%20Application.pdf
1. Im a certified dentist in my country, and Im willing to take the step into going to the US with my family (who’s in the US already) but still being able to do what I love, dentistry. I know that I need to take de NBDE I and II basically, in order to enter a REVALIDATION program (there might be exceptions according to the university, since some of them only require the part I for the application procedure). I’m NOT a resident of the US, nor a citizen… I’ve understood that I need to be a resident or a citizen in order to enter/apply to a university as a revalidation student. (do aprox, last two years of a destistry program to graduate from a US university). Is this correct?
2. Do I have other options to get the chance to have a DDS of DMD license without being a resident/citizen, and without doing the ENTIRE dentistry career all over again?
3. Does de RCP certifies you as DDS or DMD?
4. Am I abble to apply to RCP program without being a resident/citizen?
There are 2-3yr advanced dentistry programs that are specifically for foreign dentists and you can apply to them regardless of your immigration status (you do not have to be a resident/citizen). You do need a resident/citizen to co-sign for you if you apply for a student loan.
I’m not sure what you mean by RCP ..can you elaborate?
GPR*- General Practice Residency …. I have understood that it is a 1-2 year program on which you work for a hospital and get paid. But I dont know if you get you DDS/DMD allowence/certification by doing that, plus have taken both NBDE I and II. (considering I graduated from a Non-acredited US university)
GPR is separate from the DDS course. It’s like senior housesurgency in India. To get California license you will need DDS course first.
Hi Devi
I recommend you look into the ASPID program through USC. This is a great program for foreign dentists. It is a 2 year program, and once finished, you can practice in the United States. Below is the link for that information.
https://dentistry.usc.edu/programs/aspid/
Thank you!
How many years does my NBDE accreditacion is valid?? Does it expires as the toelf of other exams?
How many years does my NBDE accreditacion is valid?? Does it expires as the toelf or other exams?
Normally universities need exam results within the last 5yrs. NBDE results are also needed for when you apply for state license after graduating from a DDS program – there the state does not look for a specific time frame as long as you have competed the exam.
Hello there…. i am doing my masters in dental surgery(mds) in Periodontology and oral implantology in china.after my mds i want to go Usa for practising dentistry.And my question is what should i do to practise dentistry after my mds??? And next question is-Can i join phd after my mds and what are the criteria to find a phd degree under scholarship???? Looking positive response to my queries.. have a nice day thankyou so much….
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You are still replying to people
Thank you so much!!
So here goes my Question:
I an still an undergrad
I am looking for DDS ( complete international program )
1) since the competition is high, how do I ensure my acceptance in a dental university program? ( My grades are not that high :/ in uni )
2) I know some universities prefer to accept dental graduate students early as possible and others prefer an experienced graduate dentist.. do you have any idea which university will prefer the young ones more than the experienced ones?
You will have to complete the NBDE exams, TOEFL, get your ECE scores etc – the regular stuff. Write a good personal statement that will catch the attention of the admission board. Add some dental clinic shadowing with a US dentist, an externship or preceptorship at any university or volunteer work to add value to the resume. And the just apply anywhere and everywhere you can afford to. Remember all this gets expensive so pick and choose based on number of seats, location (cost of living) and tuition.
I have no idea of what universities look for so that a gamble.
Hello there…. i am doing my masters in dental surgery(mds) in Periodontology and oral implantology in china.after my mds i want to go Usa for practising dentistry.And my question is what should i do to practise dentistry after my mds??? And next question is-Can i join phd after my mds and what are the criteria to find a phd degree under scholarship???? Looking positive response to my queries.. have a nice day thankyou so much….
This is an excellent post and I appreciate that you reply to so many questions! My husband is a dentist from Brazil. He just graduated from a CODA accredited Advanced Education in General Dentistry program in NY. To get licensed here he will need to additionally complete the GPR. He did not get into the GPR here, however, because they say he does not have enough of the prerequisite credits (chemistry, physics, etc.) because in Brazil they don’t do undergrad first. We are now looking into moving out of state, to North Carolina. I don’t see NC on your list and wondered why? From what I could see on their dental board website: “Graduates of foreign colleges may be accepted as applicants for licensure after completing at least two years in a dental school accredited by the Commission on Accreditation of the American Dental Association, passing Board approved written and clinical examinations, and graduating with a dental degree from that dental school. ”
So wouldn’t my husband qualify? Once he takes the boards and the Adex? Thank you for your help.
I haven’t specified the states that accept IDP in the table because once you graduate from IDP, you get a US DDS and can practice in any state.
Oh I just reread the post – your husband took the AEGD. The NC dental board states that you must “graduate with a dental degree” meaning DDS…read the last part of the sentence you took from the website. You will need DDS to practice in NC.
Hiii..meera…
I saw your post on quora abt dds and road map.
I wanted to ask you I m from India just completed my bds in oct 2018…and have given my neet exam for postgraduate studies
But my fiance is in USA…he is a citizen there….is it advisable to do mds n then ipd-dds or I should not consider mds????
Please help me out…
Hiii..meera…
I really appreciate your effort…very informative post
I wanted to ask you I am from India just completed my bds in oct 2018…and have given my neet exam for postgraduate studies
But my fiance is in USA…he is a citizen there….is it advisable to do mds n then ipd-dds or I should not consider mds????
Please help me out…
If you plan to settle in the US, you should not waste time. Plan to give your NBDE and apply for IDP programs.
Hello, am a foreign trained dentist. if i get a masters program from the UK in restorative dentistry . will that help me in anyway in the US ? will it exempt me from the DDS program ? i mean can i just go to the US and get a speciality exam or residency then get licenced to work in the US ? or it dosen’t help me at all ! should i study the DDS program or go for masters in the US to be able to work there ?
Nothing acquired outside of US (except certain Canadian dental programs) will be accepted in the USA. So if you plan on working in US, don’t waste your time or money elsewhere.
Hello Meera! Thanks for your informative post! After reading your post above, I have a few questions to ask.
First of all, about the section for specialty programs, if I graduated from a CODA approved program, does that mean that, for example, I can practice in Washington state for as long as I like, but in CA I can only practice for a maximum of 5 years and no more?
Second, because of how Taiwan’s education system works, I will only have D.D.S (without a bachelor’s degree) once I graduate from med school, would it affect me in any way?
By the way, it seems that CA is also eligible for the specialty program?
https://www.cda.org/Portals/0/pdfs/licensure_overview.pdf
Only after 5 years of clinical experience (2yrs of specialty training can be included)
Many Asian countries do that..it should be an issue as long as you have enough hours of credit for the subjects they are looking for (normally they meet the criteria).
In CA you can practice only after you get 5yrs of clinical experience in another state. Once you get licensed in a state, you have no time limitations (you will have to renew your license periodically).
Hello Dr Meera. I am a foreign trained dentist from Cameroon who recently moved to the USA. I sent my documents to the ECE for evaluation but unfortunately they replied they could not evaluate my documents because they don’t have reliable sources at my university (Its stated clearly on their site). I’ve written to them multiple times but they insist my documents cant be evaluated as its their policy. I contacted the ADA and they told me they receive documents ONLY from the ECE. Hence I can’t register and take the NBDE. its really frustrating. I’m at a loss on what to do. I just saw the option in your post for limited license dental intern in some states. What other options do I have in order to practice dentistry in the US without taking the NBDE? I am presently here as a permanent resident. I am also very interested in pursuing oral pathology. Thanks
Hi! This information was helpful to some extent, but what about the state of Kansas? I went to the ADA website to find information but the only thing I found were the requirements for students who went to school in Kansas and nothing specifically about foreign students.
Kansas does not open up for foreign dentists unless you get a US DDS.
https://www.dental.ks.gov/professions/dentist
Hi,
This post is extremely informative. Thanks for taking the time in sharing this information. I am currently done with my Master’s In Public Health. I am looking forward to applying for a dental public health residency in Texas. Their state website is unclear in whether I can apply for the licensure without a DDS. Would you kindly advise?
Best,
Rohit
Texas DPH programs require you to have DDS and MPH before applying but the state board does not mention the need for DDS to apply for dental license after DPH. I’m not sure..you will have to contact the state board directly by email/phone.
Hi rohit,
Where from where did u do ur mph kindly let me know as i am also applying for the same and also need some advises for the same .can i plz have your email id or anythng so that i can contact you and get my doubts clear.thanks
I am also in the same boat. A dentist from India with MPH from Canada and Masters In dental public health from Canada. I want to apply the texas board, which requires a pass in NDBE 1 and 2. If you are applying please contact me rajsubhash7atgmaildotcom. thanks
Hello Dr Meera.,
I like the information that was presented. I am a foreign trained dentist from Ukraine, I finished my dental school in 2000. Can you please advice on what state I can work without taking exams?
Thank you
Only Minnesota..
https://mn.gov/boards/dentistry/currentlicensees/processingandapplications/dentists.jsp
Hi Dr. Meera
I am a foreign trained dentist. I have not done advanced DMD or DDS.
I am doing a 3 year clinical orthodontic residency in a CODA approved program.
I am planning to practice in Virginia after that to get my initial licensure with ultimate goal of getting a full license in Pennsylvania
Does the state of Virginia has a reciprocity agreement with Pennsylvania?
For the 5 year continuous clinical practice requirement will my three years of orthodontic residency count towards those 5 years?
Please if you can shed some light on this. Thanks for this great post.
Hi,
I trained in Lima, Peru and my husband is from Maine. Can you share some resources about how I can practice preferably without doing 2-3 extra years of education ( I have small children). We would be looking to work in the Bangor region. Thank you!
Hey Dr.Meera, I’m an international dental student from Brazil and will be graduating in 3 years.
My lifetime dream is to live in Florida and work as a dentist there.
I’m considering taking a specialty program there because I feel like that’s the most secure path to take, even though it is very pricey.
Could you give me some light into what are my best possibilities?
I already thank you in advance.
thank you very much for this information it has been very helpful. i just have a few questions
concerning the AEGD, is the GPR or AEGD just limited to the course you mentioned like dental anaesthesiology, oral medicine and orofacial pain?
and also is it possible to do a specialty after completing the 1-2 years of AEGD
concerning the Advanced standing programs, do you think this is the best method to be able have any choice of specialty and ability to practice in any state
concerning the graduate/ specialty programs, does this mean that i will be able to use my BDS degree to have a specialty in endodontics or cosmetic dentistry
and also where do all the exams come in place and how do the registration methods differ
Hello. Your site is very, very good. Thank you for sharing such precious information.
I would like to know the following: If I do AEGD in one state, I can work on another. For example, if you do AEGD in Texas, can I work in Florida?
Thank you!
Yes of course, you can apply for a license in other states, but those states should accept AEGD if you you don’t have a previous DDS or DMD (from an accredited school)
States: VA,FL,IN,KY,OH,OR,VA,WA,WI
As long as the state you apply in accepts the AEGD as a licensing program.
Dr. Meera,
Thank you very much for providing detailed information on your website. Evidently, this is helping a lot of people and is very noble deed.
I have a DDS from India and I am about to move to the US in later of 2019. I have already passed TOEFL and currently preparing for NBDE 1.
Would you please tell me what would be the best path for me in order to achieve DDS in the US?
Specifically in Texas or Florida?
Thank you.
Best path would be to complete NBDE exams and apply as soon as possible to as many colleges as possible. Make sure your statement of purpose is unique and interesting..that will set you apart from other applicants. If you do not get in the first round, try volunteering or assisting at a dental office nearby, going for dental CE’s and writing the ADAT. Keep trying!
Thank you for your response. Yes I plan on completing NBDE exams. Do you recommend completing both parts ASAP?
Also, do you recommend going for the two years IDP program or a full 4 years dental school?
The two years IDP program schools options are less from what i have researched so far.
Thank you.
4 yr dental program is a totally different track..you have to write the DAT for that. 2yr track is for foreign dentists – there are 38 universities that offer this. Find all the programs on
https://www.asdanet.org/index/dental-student-resources/tips-for-international-dental-students/advanced-standing-programs
Thank you for your support and in the near future my colleagues will join you
What about a foreign dentist that would like to work in Kansas?
Hello Dr Meera,
Thankyou for such a helpful post. I’ve done my BDS and worked as a demonstrator after that for about 3 years. My husband will be moving to USA for his PhD and then we’ll will be moving back to our home country once he is done. My question is,
1- Which is the best and most cost effective option for me to practice in TX in this short time that we will be here. I would like to get some form of qualification and/or practice by the time I return to my country so I can get a better job opportunity there.
2- can I attend any short courses or hands-on workshops to polish my skills and knowledge here with my BDS degree and if yes, do I need to have any US qualification for that too?
Would be awaiting your response 🙂
Hi!
I’m a foreign dentist from the Philippines but has been in the US for 13 years now. What should I do to be in the dental program. I’m thinking of doing it in Texas or California…
Hello
i am a uk dentist (bchd leeds 2000) with a usa passport & postgrad diploma in endodontics who wants to practice in washington usa?
i would be modt grateful for any advice on 2yr AEGD course advice from?
thanks in advance, Rachel
hello Dr MEERA , I’m a bds dentist with a experience of 3 years in clinical practice from India. Firstly, I highly appreciate you for all your time and effort in helping us with your blog. I recently shifted to the US . I’m currently preparing for the nbde part1 exams. I wanted to know about the new INBDE exam that will be implemented from 2020. I’m confused as to which exam to give.kindly guide me through this. Also, could you please suggest me about what next after giving the national boards to practice here in the US? will a diploma after NBDE help me with the practice or should I get my dds to proceed. Kindly , guide me and do the needful . Thankyou in advance!
First I want to thank you on this helpful / informative blog and your amazing effort to reply to all
I’m a US citizen with a BDS from an international university and I also finished a 3 year clinical orthodontic residency form a non approved CODA program.
my question is what is process or steps to get in an ortho program in the US?
correct me if I’m wrong
first I should take the NBDE 1&2 and get a DDS and then apply for an ortho program RIGHT??
thanks in advance for you reply
Thank you for providing this article, I found it very useful. But there’s a lot of more questions for me in this point of course, I’m pre-dentistry(first two year) graduated from Centro Escolar University (located in Manila, Philippine) and now I’ve to proceed to pepper and clinic (another 4 year)
My question is how important is the rank of a school when it comes to finding the pathway to become a dentist specially in USA.
Is there anywhere that I can find the accepted Philippine universities in USA.
I need to decide which university here is Better to study for becoming a dentist in USA eventually.
Thank you and I look forward for your response.
Hi what are the requirements for MD? Asking for someone who is a dentist from Peru.
Hi Meera,
Thank you for sharing the information on your blogs. They are really helpful!
I am a foreign trained dentist from India and was graduated in 2017. I recently got married and I am currently in the united states. I am applying for the dental hygiene courses here but I want to do dds in future. I just want to ask whether I can apply for International dentist education program after few years?
University of Southern California offers the below program for international dentists:
Advanced Standing Program for International Dentists
https://dentistry.usc.edu/programs/aspid/
Hey! Thank you so much for the information.
No problem. Let me know if you have any questions.
Hello Meera, Thank you for Helping by giving valuable information. Appreciate all your efforts. I am an FTD, permanent resident (G.C), with 2 decades of experience. Finished my Part 1, wants to Practice in VA. I will greatly appreciate if u can provide me a list of AEGD /GPR programs which can allow FTD’s to do the programs and get a certification. Which can allow me to practice in VA. Thank you in advance
Hi Meera,
Your website is an amazing find among a whole bunch of very incomplete and confusing sites from in individual states! 😂
Can I ask you how you know that a specialty program completed in Florida would allow licensure? I have read the licensing rules but it still seems unclear, it just says that you must be a graduate of a Coda-approved dental school. Does that actually include specialty programs too?
Regarding Washington state licensure, will I gain elligibility after completing 2 year visiting fellowship on pros and perio in Coda accredited dental school?
The program is specifically designed for foreign dentists.
Best regards,
Hi, are you sure Florida is included in one of the states where you can study a 2-3 year specialty in a coda approved program and that will be enough for registration as a specialist there? I have called them and they are telling me that can only register as dentist through an AEGD program or 2 yr DDS..
Any extra information would be greatly appreciated.
Yes – the law changed – you will need 2yr DDS/GPR/AEGD for Florida license – specialty is no longer accepted.
Hi, are you sure Florida is included in the states that studying a 2-3yr specialty is enough to be registered there as a specialist? I spoke to then over the phone and they are telling me that can only be registered as a dentist through DDS or a coda approved AEGD. Any help would be appreciated!
Yes that is a recent change unfortunately. I have to update the article.
AEGD or GPR only. Two consecutive years, law changed in 2012. Not specialty.
And from my understanding after calling around, there are no GPR programs for international dentists anyway in the US (ie. That pay you a stipend), only AEGD programs that the participant is required to pay? Please let me know if i am mistaken..
Unfortunately that might be true now. Even if a foreign dentist is accepted, it is usually because he knows someone or has someone who can vouch for him personally.
Dear Dr Meera
This site is an invaluable work that help a lot to clarify the process and save a lot of time.
I am foreign dentist with visitor visa, passed NBDE I 2013 and NBDEII 2014, I tried till 2016 the GPR route since I don’t have the means to pay for further studies, unfortunately I did not got a position and for personal reasons I had to stop the process.
I am now considering to resume it and I would like to know my choices up to this point…has things changed and there are really no more choices for GPR positions without greencard or permanent residence? is there any chance I can work as dental nurse in some state having passed both NBDE?
I appreciate any thoughts or advice, I am feeling frustrated.
Thank you very much, keep the great work, I wish this blog would have existed when I started the process in 2011
Regards
With regard to passing the NBDE’s, the only other line is dental hygiene school that takes NBDE scores. Hygiene school is 4yrs as well but less expensive and you can make a decent wage.
Getting into GPR is winning the lottery – best not to bank on that option.
Being an international dentist,can i go through traditional dental program after prerequisites course and DAT?What are your opinion regarding this?
I do not know of anyone personally who has gone this route. Best option would be to email or call the University you plan to attend and ask if your BDS will have enough pre-requisites for you to take the DAT exam or how to go about that. All the best!
Hi Meera,
Thanks for all the great info. My fiance is a licensed dentist in Canada. She got her licensure by taking the required exams in Canada ( she didn’t go to dental school in Canada or US) she has dental degree from Middle east. Can she work in the US without going to international program. We heard there are couple of state that accept that but we are not really sure if that’s correct or what are those states.
Rhank you
Certain states do accept Canadian dentists but only if they got the license by going to Canadian dental schools, not licensure through exams.
Hello Dr. Meera, just quick question, I’m a foreign dentist and I have applied for Restorative Dentistry in University of Michigan, it’s a 3 years DMD program, after 3 years they said that I can work at University as a clinical assistant or I can get my licensure. So my question is , Do I still need to do the NBDE in order to work in Michigan? I read this Michigan international dentists must successfully complete a minimum 2 year program in dentistry in a ADA accredited program that leads to the awarding of a doctor of dental surgery or a doctor of dental medicine or a minimum 2 years master’s degree or certificate program that leads to the awarding of a degree or certificate from an accredited dental speciality program. So I don’t think that I understand this statement.
thanks
Lily
Hi Lily,
Did you apply for for Restorative Dentistry and you will be awarded DMD?? Interesting Please throw some light.
No DMD is the general dental track.
The Graduate Restorative Dentistry Program is a MS track not a DDS/DMD track – if anything it’s requirements state the need for DDS/DMD or equivalent. You may be able to work within the University itself after you graduate from this course but not get Michigan dental license – Michigan requires US CODA approved DDS/DMD degree. Before you take the clinical licensing exam – you will also need to pass the NBDE exams.
Dr. Meera,
You have done a wonderful service to us foreign trained dentists wishing for dental licensure in USA and I’d like to thank you for it. This is by far the most comprehensive piece of information i have found so far on the subject anywhere on the internet.
I’d like to know, which states other than NY require you to go through a 1-year residency after completion of the international dentist program in order to obtain license to practice?
Also, when looking for elective programs to enhance one’s experience and resume, should one go for shadowing experiences, observerships or externships?
I think NY is the only state which requires one year of GPR on top of the IDP.
As far as I know, only NY has the mandatory 1yr residency before eligibility for licensure.
Shadowing/observerships/externships are best if the programs are in the Universities you are applying to or asking for recommendation letters from. US dental experience adds to your resume.
Hey Meera,
good work ! we appreciate your time and advice.
i have completed masters in operative dentistry program at tufts, some states do allow option for licensure.
do you know if i can get full license after completeing non coda clinical dentistry program in US?
thx
Maybe in Washington state – email them and see what they say.
Thank you so much for the information. I am Dr Rekha sasikumar. I had completed MDS in oralpathology in India. If I am applying for faculty license may I please know the complete steps. Or if I am applying for any license is nbed exam mandatory?
Initially if I apply for dental hygienist can I change the license into dentist license later?
Thank you
To apply for a Faculty license, you will need a full time faculty job offer. Find out if there are job openings and if they will consider foreign dentist for the position.
Dental hygenist license is different from dentist license.
it is really nice of you to dhare your experience and help others , i have done a lot of research about practicing dentustery in the states , but there is something i couldnt understand , to apply fof a license in ny they say that you have to take at least 2 years of accredited training in general dentistery
from a coda accredited programme, leading to a dds or dmd degree ,
does this mean any 2 year accredited aegd program or it has to come with a dds degree ?
there are 2 year coda accredeted aegd or gre but for foriegn dentists but they dont say that it leads to a dds of dmd degree ??
please answer me i cant figure it oug on my own
thankd in advance
As far as I know , no AEGD or GPR gives you a DDS. You need to do a program for foreign dentist that awards DDS.
Do you mean the state of New York?
Some states say “at least 2 years of accredited training in general dentistry” – they mean either DDS/DMD programs, AEGD/GPR programs.
AEGD/GPR programs do not give you a DDS/DMD degree.
Dr. Meera,
This was really elaborated information on how to actually practise as dentist in United States with minute and specific requirements that you have elaborated in this article. I am foreign trained dentist from India. I have completed my Masters in Periodontics and got married and came to USA. I am preparing for national boards since one and half year. My exam date of NBDE PART 1 got postponed due to coronavirus thing to May 22. I really want to understand the straight away process to get into academics as I am really passionate about teaching. I thoroughly went through your information but I am confused to pick up AEGD Verses DDS program as both are two year programs. Though this is personal but we are planning to go for baby too. How diificult is it to study your DDS program taking care of in laws, home and baby?
Kindly let me know the best solution.
Thanks and regards
Urmi
You can get a limited faculty license in most states, only thing is you will need a faculty position offer from a dental school – browse dental university websites and see if there are job openings – email them to see if they will accept foreign dentist for the position and apply. Write a very good cover letter explaining your passion about teaching and why you would be a good fit for the University.
It can be done but will not be easy, especially juggling family life and studying. All the best!
Please my question is if one is not getting the dds or idp program done as an international dentist and wants to practice in the states as a dentist is it actually possible at the moment?
Unfortunately, no.
Hi,
Informative and straight forward website! I am interested in states which allow for licensure with 1 year of AEGD or GPR. So far, Virginia and Wisconsin are the two states that I know of. Just wondering, do you think more states are going to follow the same criteria in the future, meaning licensure with 1 year of AEGD or GPR?
Best,
Hey
Thankyou for such detailed info.
I am foreign trained dentist and will soon get my hygiene license in Florida
Is there any programe that would accept me with hygiene license only? Or I have to do INDBE , any loophole?😁
No loophole. Only option to work without license is in academic settings, not easy either.
I am recent bds graduate from India. Do I have to do MPH or other masters degree in US to increase my chances of getting in? Or can I directly apply for AEGD or Speciality programs? Which states will let me practice with a speciality degree from US (without DDS).
MPH does help but so does US dental experience as dental assistant or internships etc.
You an directly apply to AEGD/GPR programs
you can get more info here – https://internationaldentistcentral.com/dental-residency-programs-for-foreign-trained-dentists/
HI! I am a dentist from Brazil and I wish to teach in a dental school in Florida..
I dont know where to start..information on the florida board of dentistry is so confusing..
You can apply for a Florida teaching permit that allows you to teach and practice within the limits of the University. But you will need a full time faculty job offer to apply for this license. Find out if there are job openings and if they will consider foreign dentist for teh position.
Hi…
I am doing my post graduation in Pediatric Dentistry from India… And I want to get a license to work in California after completing my MDS could you please suggest me the options other than DDS so that I can work as a dentist.
I will be waiting for your reply.
Unfortunately, there is no other way to work as a dentist other than to study again.
Hi
Thanks for all the info posted here
I am a foreign trained dentist, did a 3 year prosthodontics residency and a 1 year implant fellow in Fl 11 years ago, I have an active Fl licence, been keeping up with ce credits and renewals since but also have been living and practicing dentistry outside of the US, dont know how or if I can get a TX or CA licence by reciprocity and how I eould go about it since all the years of prectice have been abroad, any usefull info on it?
Thanks
Best Regatds!!!
I recommend you to contact directly the Board of Dentistry of those states, as they are the only ones qualified to answer, preferably in writing.
I agree, email the dental boards of the states you want to apply to. All the best!
Hello
What will be tution fees for Advance standing program in which we have join in 2nd or 3rd year of DDS?
More information regarding this program will be appreciated.
Around $100,000 per year with additional $20,000 for living expenses.
First of all,thank you for your useful informatin you provided for us🙏🙏.l just got really confused and I need your guide.
I’m student and it’s my forth year in dental scool.(I live in Iran and I’m not US citizen)
I want to continue my specialty program in USA after finishing my dental school im my country. I know it seems impossible but you know it’s my dream and l want to make it true.
I want to ask what should I have to do now? You’ve mentioned that we have to take NBDE exams,so there in USA what are the refrences?(actually I know refrences,but for NBDE 1 exam I need summarized books and I couldn’t find them). I’m really confused and I have lots of obstacles on my way and I don’t know how to start 😔and I will appreciate ,if you help me please.🙏🙏🌹🌹
Consider that after finishing my dental school I will have great toefl score and great scores in university
I would recommend you now try to write the combined exam INBDE – go through dental decks https://www.dentaldecks.com/
and released papers of NBDE exams
You will find more info and some practice questions – https://www.dentaldecks.com/
Hello , I am Foreign Dentist from Europe, Passed NBDE1,2 TOEFL, and applying for residency programs, What is your opinion which is the easiest residency to get in , Prostho , Perio or AEGD? Or the programs that accept the most , thank you
well dr.meera i am from india, doing by BDS course what would you suggest me to take so that i can practice as dentist in the US, in a cost efficient way and also meet the rules of the state. well i have two specialities in mind and where to work for that speciality
HERE GOES
1) oral surgeon – in the states of north carolina, south dakota or ohio
2) orthodontist – in the states of washington, virginia, nebraska.
and there is one more state that is north dakota….
can you please tell me about in brief or in a sentence each
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, it is very useful information. I graduated dental school out of the USA and Graduate CODA-accredited 3 years residency program in the US. According to your information, I could apply for the Nevada state dentist license. However, I could not find any information about this on the NSBDE site. Would you be able to give me details on how I could obtain the Nevada license?
I have passed NBED I & II and WREB too.
Hello Dr. Meera,
Thank you so much for the website with such wonderful information. I am going through most of it as much as I can and trying to dig out as much information and finding loop holes within the system. I am a Malaysian national with a dental graduate from India and currently residing at Alaska. I was wondering about the Graduates of Non-CODA Accredited International Dental Education Programs for the state of Minnesota and was wondering if there is a possibility for me to apply for it? I am yet to sit for the NBDE and TOEFL examinations.
Thank you,
yours sincerely,
Dr. Puvin
Hi,
I really have to appreciate the way you have helped out people . Me and my wife, we did BDS from Pakistan almost 15yrs back. My wife additionally have done her MPH aswell from Pakistan. We are ready to settle in any state . Wanted to avoid going to school for DDS for additional cost . We are ready to settle on a limited licence in any state . We didnot practice dentistry all these years so honestly speaking , we will be lacking the practical experience and exposure in our CV . What are our chances to enter a programme and practice here and what’s the best and fastest pathway and state where we can practice . Thank you in advance .
Hello Dr. Mera, thanks for your help in advance.
I have an active dental license in California, I did an IDP in La salle Mexico. My question is ….recently I knew tha Arizona changed its laws and they now accept a license from any other 49 states….can I get a license there ?
Hi Meera,
Thank you for the detailed insight into the options.
I have completed 2.5 years of M.S. pediatric dentistry program. I do not have DDS and I am interested in practicing in California. I have passed ADEX and have a Michigan dental license.
Will I still be able to apply for a California dental license? I find the requirements to be a little confusing on their website. Will you be able to guide, please?
Hi Samita,
Wanted to know as how come you have MI dental license without DDS?
I mean I am a foreign qualified dentist aswell.
I am also looking for options other than DDS with which I can practice in any US state. How can you get the admission in MS if you are a dentist from a non accredited dental school.
Thank you in advance .
Hi Dr. Meera,
Thank you for all the information here! You are an invaluable resource. I am a foreign trained dentist from Colombia currently in a postgraduate prosthodontics program in the United States. After I complete the program, will I be able to work in all the states in the diagram above, including Colorado? Do you know if that diagram is accurate in 2020 or where I can get more specific information about state laws?
Thank you in advance!!
Hi Lina ,
Can you please guide as how you got the entry in post graduate programme when you were from non accredited foreign dentist . Please advise where you got it ? I am also trying for the same . Than you
Hi. I am currently looking to help a former Dentist and his broker I worked for and was a patient at his practice that is still in operation in Arcata California. He is willing to sell his practice it to a licensed Dentist who wishes to live in the country and grow the practice. Thank-you for passing this on to who all might be interested. ~ Wyly Steeves Dental Assistant
Would you please guide me steps needs to be taken for an international specialist dentist how to get US Licence?
I am from India and wanting to move US. Can I do DDS in canada and then move to US?Is it possible ?
To every foreign-trained dentist out there, wanting to come to the U.S.A. To practice. I graduated from Dental School in the Dominican Republic and then attended a two-year program for Foreign Trained dentists at New York University College of Dentistry. I passed my National Dental Boards without any problem. After NYU, I got accepted to the University of Pittsburgh/Pittsburgh Children’s Hospital for a 2 and 1/2 year Pediatric Dental Residency program.
I took the Northeast Regional Board and became licensed in New York. After five years of practicing in New York State, I was licensed in South Dakota and California (through reciprocity). I also performed a one-year internship program in Oral Surgery/Anesthesia. After having practiced dentistry in New York for almost 20 years, I almost had a nervous breakdown? I was working 6 days a week (I had a fruitful practice with many patients) and did not dedicate enough time to resting peacefully. When I went on vacation, it was mainly to take courses for continuing education. I thought that I was doing something wrong? I found out, that most of my friends were going through the same anxiety/depressive state!
I made a lot of money, but I almost lost my sanity and my life! Working in the United States as a Dentist, is extremely hard!! The State Dental Boards are always on top of you with OSHA, Infection Control, Emergency Cardiac Life Support, HIPAA, etc. You have to pay for your entire staff to be certified. There are so many regulations, that it will make you crazy! Then submitting payment to insurance companies is a real pain!!!
This is how I solved my problems. My father started a small business down in Florida, which has always done excellent (Thank G-d!!). My wife and I took over the business, and my son who is an Attorney is the CEO. I had my dental licensed when I left the Dominican Republic, so I opened up a small office in the Dominican Republic (with two other friends of mine who are also dentists). I also got my license in the Bahamas and joined an already existing group practice. The Bahamas is only a 40 minute flight from Miami and the Dominican Republic a two hour flight. Every six weeks, I spend one week in the Dominican Republic and another week (seven day weeks) in the Bahamas treating patients who are scheduled for me ahead of time.
I then come back home to Miami, Florida and spend six weeks with my family and resting. Of course, while I was working hard in Syracuse, New York. I invested my money wisely and the business waiting for me in Florida is excellent!! I also received great offers from Dental Friends practicing in Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Spain, and Australia. MY MAIN MESSAGE: Make sure that the United States is what you want? You might be able to make a decent living in another country and have a better lifestyle!!!!!
This is an advice from someone who wishes everyone happiness, love, and certain riches in life (money is not everything!!). You may also consider specializing in Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery, Orthodontics, Pediatrics, Periodontics, Implant Dentistry, or very important are the specialties in Oral Medicine and in Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology. There are hospitals who offer a one to two year dental oncology residency (check them out). You can then go back to your country or choose a country, that with the specialty you gained in the U.S. you can make a very good living and have a great position in teaching or directing a department.
G-d’s Blessings,
Dr. Alfredo
Great post Dr. Alfredo, gracias!!
Thank You Ali for your comment. Please look at my latest post!!
Thank you Dr. Alfredo Sosat for sharing your story. Such an encyclopedia of information and an encouragement to others who are just starting out on this journey. I am very glad that you shared that USA is not the only country to make a good living and that balancing your life is very important!!
Dear Ali, thank you for reading my post. I deeply appreciated. For those Foreign Trained Dentist who wish to specialize in the U.S.A. Residencies such as, Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery, Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology and Radiology, Maxillofacial Prosthodontics have always been reserved for those Dentists who have obtained their DDS or DMD in the U.S. or Canada? Yes, there has been some foreign dentist who have done OMS residency in the past. These dentists have had to sign an agreement, that they will go back to their country of origin after completing their training.
Well, things are changing and you can get into practically any residency now a days, if you know where to apply? University based specialty programs are easier to get in, since you would probably would need to pay some type of tuition. Whereas in hospital based residencies, you receive a stipend or salary for the years in training. Also, some universities like NYU have special residency programs for International students. Your best bet would be to take the National Dental Boards parts I and II, along with the TOEFL exam (for Dentists from non-English speaking countries). If you have these exams passed, you are ahead of the game and you can compete with other applicants. NOTICE: Many university-based programs cater to foreign dentists, because they want that dentists to go back and promote that program and the university as well (an example, is the University of Pittsburgh School of Dental Medicine, New York University College of Dentistry, University of Illinois, University of Nebraska, etc.).
Some States in the U.S., will give you the opportunity to apply to any type of residency program, as long as you are ELIGIBLE for licensure? This means that you need to have your both National Dental Boards and TOEFL as a minimum requirement!!! They may ask you to do a one-year GP (general practice residency )or a one or two year Advanced General Dentistry Program. An Advanced General Dentistry Program is NOT a DDS nor a DMD program!! The only other country in the whole world with full U.S. reciprocity or accreditation is CANADA!! Meaning that if you graduated from a Canadian Dental School, it is considered as having graduated from an American or U.S. Dental School!! Most or all of this information is available through the ADA or American Dental Association website. One advantage of having a degree from Canada is, that a Canadian dental degree is totally reciprocal in Australia, New Zealand , Belize, India, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. In countries which used to be under British control at some level? For example, Egypt has a total British Dental School system and awards the BDS degree like the U.K.
If you are interested in a certain specialty? Do not be afraid of applying to some of these out-of-the-way States? Such as Alaska, Utah, Iowa, Mississippi, Oklahoma, etc. These states usually get less applicants than the States of New York, New Jersey, California, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, State of Washington, Texas, etc.. Everyone wants to go to the major states, which have the largest cities (it’s a great cultural panacea and experience. But it is also very competitive!!). KEEP IT REAL!!! Do not get into something, more than you can chew? After all, you want for example to become an Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon? Well , the programs in the United States are all equally accredited and follow the same ADA guidelines. After you have your specialty, you are then a U.S. trained OM surgeon and can either leave the U.S. or apply for advanced standing program (which means, a university will make you repeat two to three years of dental school and award you your DDS or DMD!!
Boston University has always been Foreign Dentist -friendly and they would consider you for a specialty and to their advanced standing DMD program. You just know how to get around, GOOGLE these universities, the programs you want, even call them and write them so you can get all of the information you need and make yourself be known!! Do not fall in love with one single city or university. If you do Periodontics at the University of Pittsburgh, you are as good of a Periodontist (or even better), as if you would have done your specialty at Harvard University!!!! Same goes to, if you wish to apply for advance standing program for your DDS or DMD. Apply everywhere, it does not matter which university you get in within the United States (they all follow the same parameters and have the same accreditation). Some of these universities may ask you to have both National Dental Boards (Parts I and II), they might also ask you to pass a manikin or bench test? Regardless of who says who, what, and where? The best places to prepare yourselves for these manikin tests are at The Pankey Institute in Key Biscayne, Florida!! There is one more institute in Florida or the Carolinas, which I have forgotten the name? You have GOOGLE and the Internet, more than I had when I was in your shoes 35 years ago! I did it, why not YOU? Last thing, you also must check on what type VISA or Immigrant Status you are in and the current legislation regarding immigration or student VISAS? You should not have any problem with the incoming President Biden administration (They are good people)!!!
Good Luck and G-d’s Blessings,
Dr. Alfredo
P.S. I am a Hispanic Jew, so if you are also? Dentistry in Israel is very good!!
Thank you again Dr. Alfredo, tus consejos son increibles, soy hispano tbn!. I recently got my dental license in California, I’d like to do a specialty too, but I’m not sure, you know as a foreign dentist have been very hard to arrive at this point, for me is a complicated decision start working as a General Dentist or “fight ” for a post doctoral program…I’m no a teenager, time flies…..thanks in advance!
Ali, siempre aquí para ayudar en lo que pueda!! Felicidades y Bendiciones!!
Alfredo
This is Dr. Alfredo Sosat with another advice for Foreign Trained Dentists. During my 20 years of practice in the United States. Even though , I was working very hard to make money and to give my family a good life? I was actually accepted into a Master’s- Ph.D. (Combined program) in Craniofacial Development. I was already a U.S. trained Pediatric Dentist and I was licensed in three states. The reason for this was, I always enjoyed research and teaching and I always had plans, that upon my retirement from practice (or partial retirement)? I would take up teaching at a Dental or Medical School in the U.S., Canada, The U.K., or somewhere else. Not even American-born and graduates of American or Canadian universities have graduate doctoral degrees in a research discipline?
By I working on my Master’s-Ph.D. In Craniofacial Development (and Anomalies), not only did I elevate myself as a professional. But I became even more respectable within my career (let’s say)? I published only a few research articles and mainly in foreign dental journals. But I was a U.S. trained researcher, not only did this help me in licensing within the U.S., but also abroad! I actually received many offers from many good U.S. dental schools for teaching and research position. In the U.S., teaching and research does not pay very well. But I always looked at it, as an insurance policy once I decided to give up private practice. Usually, you are not required to have a license to teach nor to conduct research. But that Ph.D. In Craniofacial Development, did help me go a very long way. It even brought prestige to my private practice!! If you are a licensed foreign dentist in one U.S. state, you can be directly accepted into a Master’s-Ph.D combined program, or even directly into a Ph.D. Program without having a Bachelor’s degree in the United States or Canada. They assume that if you have your DDS or DMD degree from another country, but are licensed in the United States (especially if you have a specialty)? You are capable of studying for an additional Master’s and/or Ph.D.
I would say, that 99% of Foreign Trained Dentists that come into the U.S., come in with one single purpose? To do what is only necessary to get licensed and to start making money for their families and themselves! I do not blame them one bit, nor do I criticize them at all! After all, this is the country of opportunities. But if you are young, not married, and definitely no children? I would encourage you to pursue not only graduate studies in a research discipline. But also to specialize in Endodontics, Periodontics, OMS, Pediatrics, Orthodontics, etc.
I am a DDS, Pediatric Dentist, one-year of Oral Surgery/Anesthesia, and a Ph.D. At 63 years of age, I am doing another Master’s degree in Orofacial Pain & Oral Medicine. This last degree is mainly distance learning, and I only have to go to the campus for five weekends a year (and it’s a two-year program)? I am amazed that I can do such a training, because the Internet exists? When I got started, we did not even have cellular phones! So it should be easier and cheaper now a days. Take advantage of your time , life, and career. If you really love Dentistry and Health Care, there are so many possibilities for everyone out there!! Especially now a days, the American Dental Association have added new specialties (such as Dental Anesthesiology, Oral Medicine, Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology or Radiology). In my days, Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology was only Oral Pathology. Now, Oral & Maxillofacial Pathologists work alongside Medical Pathologists? Dental Anesthesiologists can now work at certain hospitals as staff Anesthesiologists. In my days, they could only offer their services to Pediatric Dentists and Oral Surgeons at their offices (and the politics involved, along with so many rules and regulations would drive you crazy).
So to all of you who are afraid or discouraged, DO NOT BE!!! Get your booties into the Internet and check out all of the programs available to you. Check the websites of the American Dental Association, Canadian Dental association, The British Dental Society, The Australian & New Zealand Dental Societies. Most of all, check out all of the websites of every single specialty board! I mean the American Association of Pediatric Dentistry, The American Association of Periodontics, The American Association of Oral Medicine and so on!! Also go into the websites of as many U.S. dental schools you can think of and call them (and write them), that you want to know about their Advanced Standing Programs for their DDS or DMD. That you also want to know, what specialties they offer and if the program is full-time or part-time, or is the program distance learning or blended (meaning that is mainly long distance, but you might need to be present at the campus 2 to 3 weeks a year or 5 weekends a year )? What is their tuition and if the program is eligible for student loans? THE NEW PRESIDENT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2021, IS CONSIDERING IN PARDONING MUCH OF THE STUDENT LOANS AND ESPECIALLY FOR HEALTHCARE CAREERS? ALSO LOWERING THE INTEREST RATE TO A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT OR NO INTEREST (YOU JUST PAY THE PRINCIPAL).
One last comment I wish to state (actually two)? Many United Kingdom universities have distance learning programs in different specialties, including Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery. You might need to attend 4 to 5 weeks a year in the U.K. For hands-on experience? But all of the didactic is done through ZOOM, SKYPE, Pre-recorded webinars, reading assignments followed by an internet evaluation, etc. Also for the Spanish speaking foreign dentists, in my day many foreign dentists who had done an OMS residency at a WHO accredited program in Latin America. You would not be allowed to apply for hospital privileges as an Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon? BUT many states licensing foreign trained Oral Surgeons could charge insurances Oral Surgeon specialist rates for Biopsies, Wisdom Tooth extractions, intra-oral and peri-oral lacerations, dentoalveolar trauma, etc.
The University of Valparaiso in Chile and the University of Chile (in Santiago) have excellent Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery residencies, whose directors actually studied in the U.S. or the U.K. University of Bueno Aires in Argentina is also among those very well seen here in the U.S. and the U.K. Their programs are actually called “Cirugía y Traumatología Buco Maxilo Facial”, they are between 3 to 5 years in length (over there, they do not give you an MD Degree? They actually teach the necessary medical knowledge dentists need to be excellent Oral Surgeons, without having to make you go through medical school. I understand the Internal Medicine, Otolaryngology, Pathology, Dermatology, Endocrinology, etc.. But why does an Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon need to know how to actually perform obstetrics? I understand , that you need the knowledge in case you need to treat a pregnant woman? But not how to deliver a baby?
ANYWAY, NEVER GIVE UP HOPE!!! DO YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE (ASK QUESTIONS, RESEARCH, VISIT THE UNIVERSITIES, PROGRAMS, OR HOSPITALS)!! One last thing, the Scandinavian countries also have very good programs (but you need to learn German or French)?
Shalom and May the Blessings of the One and Only God Be With All You Always!!!
Dr. Alfredo
Thank you again Dr Alfredo hace una semana obtuve mi licencia dental, y despues de leer este post suyo me dio ganas de nuevo de estudiar, lolll…The idea of studying a specialty outside the US is very interesting. I did not know that I could study a specialty at a distance, I mean only being there a few weeks a year, it is a good point
Mil gracias. Saludos!
Mi Hermano Dr. Ali,
Si no tienes muchos compromisos ahora? Digo, si no estas casado?, tienes hijos? O no tienes muchos gastos? No importa tu edad! Yo tengo 63 anos y tengo consultas en dos países (Republica Dominicana y Las Bahamas ). Estoy en mi Master’s en Oral Pain y Oral Medicine!! Por cierto, usted que estas en California, mi master’s degree lo estoy cojiendo con USC. Just Google distance learning programs at USC College of Dentistry y veras!! Ali, la vida tiene muchas vueltas y uno nunca sabe el futuro que vas a tener? Even having your license in California? You never know if you will return to your country of origin when you decide to retire? Quizás te casas con una chica de tu país y ella quiere estar cerca de Mamá y Papá ?
Nuestros países les importa una verga (perdona la palabra), si tenemos licencia Norte Americana? Pero si les importa, si tenemos especialidad hecha en el extranjero !!! Yo tengo un amigo cuyo se hizo Ortodoncista y Odontopediatra en Pittsburgh! Luego hizo advance standing en Michigan y obtuvo su DDS de la University of Michigan para practicar en los Estados Unidos. Se caso con una Costa Rícense y vive y practica en San Jose, Costa Rica!! He is making a kill economically over there!! Google University of Southern California (USC) School of Dentistry, para que tu veas? You can do it through distance learning.
Un Abrazo Mi Hermano Hispano y La Bendición De Nuestro Dios Adonai!! Dios siempre primero!!
Shabbat Shalom,
Alfredo
Another post by Dr. Alfredo Sosat, DDS, Ph.D.
If one studies a specialty in another country, this does not mean that you cannot practice your specialty once you obtain U.S. Dental License! For example, if you study Pediatric Dentistry in Latin America and then you come to the United States and obtain your license you cannot call yourself a Pediatric Dentist? But you can call yourself a Dentist specialized in Dentistry for Children. YES, I know that is silly and even stupid but that is the law!! You can even become an Affiliate Member or Associate Member of the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry. But you can never become Board-Certified, nor be a Full Member with voting rights. But you can practice only Pediatric Dentistry if you so desire!!
I knew quite a number of Brazilian Dentists, who specialized in Pediatric Dentistry in Brazil or Argentina. Once they became licensed in The State of New York, they started practices in Dentistry for Children only. They could not become members of The New York State Pediatric Dental Society or better said, they became only affiliate members and not full members because their training was done outside the United States? They could never apply for hospital privileges as a Pediatric Dentist. U.S. hospitals would not consider them as such? But you could practice all of the Pediatric Dentistry you wanted in your private office!!
I also knew a Salvadoran Dentist, who had specialized in Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery in Argentina. Once he became licensed in the State of New York and in Florida, all he did in his office were Impacted 3rd molar extractions, pre-prosthetic surgery, biopsies, implants, dentoalveolar trauma, etc.. He could not become a full member of the American Association of Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeons? But he went onto becoming a Full Fellow of The International Association of Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeons and an Affiliate member of the American Association of Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeons. The United States is a country of Laws which we all need to obey, if we wish to live and practice here! But there are many ways to “Legally” circumvent those laws. He could not call himself an Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon? But he would say “Practice Limited To Oral Surgery”, which was totally legal!!!
There were some procedures were the insurance companies would only reimburse him as a General Dentist? And not as an American trained Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon, but this did not mean that he could not do the procedures in his office? Also, since he was performing only surgery in his private office. He would purchase as much malpractice insurance as he could get, and he did not have a problem with that?
So if anyone says, that you cannot practice your specialty once you become licensed in the U.S. because you decided to specialize in another country? They are wrong!! Just make sure that you do everything within the Law!! Do your due diligence and research in the State where you are licensed and even hire an Attorney for sound legal advice? But you are permitted to practice your specialty within the confines of your private office and within the definition of what your practice should be. Also, within the parameters of your training. Back in the 1980’s I believe it was, a general dentist licensed in the United States moved to Mexico for a number of years. Throughout those years, all he did was Cleft Lip +/- Palate surgery and he had documented each case through photographs and hospital records down in Mexico. When he decided to move back to the United States, he wanted to keep doing Cleft Lip +/- Palate surgeries and he was asked “Are you an American trained Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon”? He said “NO”, but I have over two thousand cases of surgeries I performed down in Mexico and here is the proof! He took it to court, and the court decided in his favor!! He was allowed to practice Cleft Lip +/- Palate surgery. Because he showed beyond a reasonable doubt, that he had performed all of these surgeries and he had indeed. He had each patient were he worked on, their photographs, records of pre and post-surgery, affidavits signed that he had performed the surgeries. He also had movies or film, of himself in a Mexican Hospital performing the surgeries and explaining each step as he went through the procedure!!
Everything is possible when you do things correctly and within the law of the land! Again, DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED AND DO NOT LET ANYONE SAY TO YOU “YOU CANNOT”!! But you do have to back up your claims with hard core proof and data!! So if you have been dreaming of Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery and have never been accepted into a residency in the United States or Canada? Well, you have many awesome programs in the United Kingdom, India, Spain, Germany, and France. But I am bias towards the programs in Chile and Argentina, because I have visited them and they are awesome!!
May The Blessings of Our One G-D, Our Lord Be Upon You All (No Matter Which Religion You Belong To, We Are All Children Of The Same One God) The G-d of “I AM”!!!
Shabbat Shalom,
Dr Alfredo Sosat, DDS, Ph.D.
Muy buena informacion esta dando aqui, y dificil de encontrar en un solo post, gracias de nuevo Doc. One question, what about insurances….for example if I limit my practice just to pediatric dentistry or endo, the insurer companies gonna pay me as specialist? Or even they gonna cover some treatments like re-treaments or sedations ??
You will only get paid for an Endodontic treatment as a General Dentist. But this is a very good question, because it has different parts to it? If you did a U.S. accredited Endodontic or Periodontics residency or specialty program. Most insurances will reimburse you as a specialist and as what is reasonable and customary for the area where your practice is located in? But some insurance companies have just a set fee per procedure, and will pay you that set fee regardless if you are a specialist in the field or not? The most you can get out of them, is to have you registered on their website as a specialist. Whenever someone enquires about Endodontic or Periodontics treatment, you as the specialist on that certain field will get the referral. The fee will be the same as a General Dentist and in some states (as New York), was is reasonable and customary for the neighborhood your practice is in?
In New York City, dentists in Manhattan get pay more than dentists in Queens or Brooklyn. Because in Manhattan the rents are much more higher (even though that is changing, because Brooklyn is becoming extremely expensive)? So I am assuming, that dentists in Los Angeles get pay much higher than dentists practicing in Sacramento? Back in the day, Los Angeles was the most expensive city in California (I do not know if it still is or wether it has changed within the last 10 years)? My California friends practice in Downey, California which is like a suburb of L.A. Downey has its o.k parts and it’s very bad parts? Every insurance company strategizes its payment plan differently in each state? A root canal treatment in Oklahoma is still a root canal treatment in California. But I bet, that California dentists get reimburse at a slight higher rate?
Companies like AETNA, CIGNA and others have the same name, but different coverage policies in each state, city, or county. As a graduate of an accredited ADA program in Perio or Endo will just place you in their websites as specialist on the field. Ninety-nine percent of people contacting their insurances for participant dentists, will always choose the specialist over the general dentist!! It maybe that the General Dentist is just as good as the specialist? But the American mentality is : “Always go to the Specialists on the Field”!!
Also remember that each of your patients, even though five of them might have AETNA or CIGNA? Each patient will have a totally different policy depending who they work for or what policy they chose? Some policies might cover sedation ? Others will not!! In New York, I had patients with all kinds of different policies. I had patients who were CEO’s for real large corporations (i.e. IBM, Readers Digest, Pepsi Cola, Coca Cola, etc.), and they did not pay any copayments! Their insurances covered everything at 100%!! (Of their fees established via their contracts with the providing dentist and the policy holder).
So Dr. Ali, is a great question. But the answer is, “You will learn as you go”. Since there are so many different types of policies even under one same insurance name. They also change geographically, depending where you are in the country. Insurance companies are out for one thing? Which is to make money!!!!!!!!!!! They are not going to pay you more than what they have to or can get away with. On the same topic, never over-charge nor bill for the same procedure twice. Because this is considered a “Criminal Act” in the United Sates and maybe at first you get off with a heavy fine and a warning? But most of the time, Dentists end up loosing their licenses and possibly going to jail!!! IT IS NOT WORTH IT, ESPECIALLY AFTER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE TO GET WHERE YOU ARE AT!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a specialist and work at a group practice, make sure the owner of the group practice does not charge for procedures not performed under your name!!!!!!!! The law is blind and when they are after a Dentist who is charging for procedures which have not been performed? The name that appears on the billing, is the person they go after!! Even if you can prove that you are innocent? You will need to spend an arm and a leg on legal fees and they screw up your reputation!! SO DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS AND ALWAYS CHECK YOUR ACCOUNTING!!! If you work for a group practice, before taking the job. Make sure that you ask in writing, that you are allowed to check your billing and productivity sheets DAILY!!!!!
G-d’s Blessings,
Dr Alfredo
P.S. I know that this is hard, especially when you are starting out. But try to avoid working with MEDICAID or MEDICARE!!! Believe me, you will Thank Me in a few years!!
ONE MORE THING FROM DR. ALFREDO,
IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN OFFICE OR OFFICES (EVEN IF YOU HAVE OTHER DENTISTS WORKING FOR YOU AS INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS), ALWAYS HIRE A BILLING COMPANY TO DO THE BILLING FOR YOUR OFFICE OR OFFICES? THESE COMPANIES USUALLY CHARGE A 6 TO 7% OF ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLES. THIS TAKES THE RESPONSIBILITY OFF YOUR HANDS, ABOUT BILLING INCORRECTLY!!
BLESSINGS<
Dr. ALFREDO
Hello Dr. Alfredo,
Thank you for your time helping with all the tips. Is there channel to contact you on with very private individual questions? I am about to graduate from a Republic of Georgia university as a dentist, i would like to know if there are opportunities to first work as a dental hygienist and take it from there in the US. Also what do you think about doing a program in Mexico and transferring to CALIFORNIA? There is this program of La Sala ? Just loudup brainstorming here. Thanks for your great advice and God Bless.
Ash
Hi , thank you very much for your article, it was helpful and informative. If I pass NBDE part 1 and 2 and do a dental public health course. Will I get licensure for some states? Many thanks
Most DPH has requirements like and MPH degree – there are some that are dual MPH/DPH tracks. You will have to research that. I know Texas gives dental license based on DPH though I haven’t come across anyone practicing through this track.
Hi I graduated from a 2 year CODA accredited Orofacial pain program
dose that make me eligible for a (GRADUATE/SPECIALTY PROGRAMS) license? meaning that the as mentioned under point 5. 5. GRADUATE/SPECIALTY PROGRAMS;
“the 9 CODA approved specialties, some programs accept foreign dentists. The difference to keep in mind is that once you graduate, the Specialty degree would allow you to practice only in certain select states” ” Specialty programs are usually two to three years in duration” “I’m aware of some states mentioned in the table/map below that gives licensure by reciprocity to foreign dentists who have completed only a Specialty program”
does it include CODA accredited Orofacial pain program or you can get specialty license only if the 2 years CODA accredited program was in AGED?
because I went to each state site (the orange colored states on the map) and I didnt find ifo on such thing?
Kindly I appreciate your feedback
Thank you
Best thing you can do is contact each board of dentistry of those states directly and get a straight answer from them. No other source of info is as reliable.
Hello Dr. Meera,
I’m extremely thankful for all the valuable information you’ve shared. I found it very helpful. I am a dentist with BDS degree from India and plan to move to USA. I plan on taking up the INBDE and TOEFL and try getting into an IDP and gain DDS. But before that, my current plan is to get my Certified Dental Assistant and CPR certification and work as a dental assistant in North Carolina for two years and gain work experience (according to DANB, I can qualify as Dental Assistant II), also so I can get financially stable. Then I plan on going about the INBDE, IDP route.
Does this plan sound plausible or is it worth trying? Or is it better to drop this plan and try for GPA/AEGD in one of the states that give license to practice? Also, I’m hoping my dental assistant work experience will be a positive point on my resume while applying for an IDP.
Thank you in advance, any information would be deeply appreciated.
Hi Deepika,
You are on the right track – my current assistant is a dentist from Iran – it is a valuable insight into the US dental practice and programs value that. Get a recommendation letter from the dentist you will be working for as well.
Thank you very much! I appreciate your response!
Hi miss Meera. Thank you so much for your time and effort in helping us. So according to my understanding, a BDS coupled with a DPH degree aallows me to sit for the licensure exam in Texas?
Do I have to do mph then dph. Thanks for your help and reply in advance. God bless.
Or can I just do a 2 year dph program to be able to qualify.
Thank you so much for your atricle.
I want to have DPH residency. it seems there are many universities that offer this program but without any clear steps after getting this degree. Would i need to set for NBDE 1 and 2 to work as DPH? what is the difference between NBDE and American Board of Dental Public Health examination? univesity of Boston offers CAGS and DScD, what is the difference in terms of accridation and licences?
https://www.bu.edu/academics/sdm/programs/dental-public-health/
The licenses are granted by individual state dental boards. The requirements vary from state to state and hence it is best to refer to the state dental board rules for accurate information.
A lot of people are seeking information from other individuals who are equally misinformed on these forums.
As the owner of this website stated in one of her posts, the decisions you make are life altering. Hence take any advice with a grain of salt, and always verify with the state dental board regarding the qualifications to obtain the dental license.
The ultimate goal of most foreign-trained dentists [FTDs] is to practice dentistry in the USA.
While getting a DDS/DMD is the best route, it may not be possible for some FTDs either due to finances, or other reasons. Therefore such people explore alternative pathways such as AEGD, Specialty training, etc. This is where the licensing gets confusing and trickier as each state dental board have their own regulations. A handful of states accepts AEGD and/or Specialty training. Hence it is best to refer to the state dental board rules for accurate information.
Remember that DDS/DMD alone will not get you a license. You will have to complete a licensing exam such as ADEX, WREB, NERB whatever is prescribed by the state dental board where you wish to practice. You can find the necessary information here – https://www.ada.org/en/education-careers/licensure/dental-licensure-by-state-map
Some states will give licenses without DDS/DMD. For instance, in NY state 2-year AEGD PLUS 1 yr GPR will enable you to practice. Even with a DDS/DMD, they require an additional 1 year of postgraduate training. So a lot of graduates go for AEGD/GPR programs.
So there is a myriad of factors one should consider. Unfortunately, a lot of people are seeking information from other individuals who are equally misinformed on these forums. Most often people think there is an easier way or some secret information available on such forums. I have seen people inquiring about faculty licenses. In reality, very few individuals with exceptional qualifications [or connections with the right people] are able to become faculty members in US dental schools. Some of them may be able to get a limited faculty license in certain states. Hence this is not a popular route for most FTDs. Also, most non-clinical programs such as DScD, DDSc, or DMSc, will not help you get a license as these are typically research-based degrees.
Please remember that the owner of this website clearly stated in one of her posts, that the decisions you make are life-altering. She has also cautioned you to seek correct information so that you can avoid any potential pitfalls.
Hence take any advice posted here with a grain of salt, and always verify with the state dental board regarding the requirements/qualifications to obtain the dental license.
So how do you know if you could trust what I posted here. You can as I have completed multiple advanced dental programs, and hold a dental license in both United States and Canada. I was a faculty member too.
To my knowledge, I have given you accurate information. However, the onus is still on you to verify as the rules keep changing and I do not keep track of these changes will every single state.
I truly wish you all the best with your goals.
Hi Meera !! First of all Thankyou for all your precious information..!! You are like an Angel for all FTDs looking for opportunities in USA !! I have been following your page since 2years and now finally Iam in USA !!
Iam foreign trained dentist(finished BDS from India) and want to pursue advance standing program and gain dds degree. But, before that I want to work as a dental assistant and gain some practical experience and knowledge in US clinical setup !!
My question is that can I work as Dental Assistant(DA) with H4-EAD visa !? Also will that working as DA experience counts when I apply for IDP programs ?!
One last question Can One with BDS try and apply for limited liscence or is post-graduation mandatory for that!?
Please answer my questions doctor!!
Thanks a ton in Advance !!
H4 EAD gives you a lot more freedom so yes you can work as a DA. That is valid US experience that will improve your resume. Each Specialty program is different in their requirement so you will have to look at each individually. Faculty licensure is based on whether schools with faculty jobs available are willing to consider a foreign dentist (BDS) – that is again something you will have to email the school itself as it’s not a generalized requirement. All the best!
Thankyou soo much For the reply Dr.Meera !!
Hi,
The blog was really helpful! Much thanks!
Can you please tell if an Orthodontist (foreign trained) gives Board exam for Orthodontics plus NDBE ….then is he/she allowed to work as an Orthodontist without having to do DDS or DMD…????
Hello Dr,
Thank you for this post. I want to know if this information still accurate till this day. Thank you in advanced.
Helio. I am an orthodontist graduated from a US accredited program (CWRU in Cleveland, Oh). My dental degree is from Colombia. I see that by specialty license can be obtained in some states. Can you tell me info about it? thanks
Hi Meera, I finished Prosthodontics residency(don’t have DDS/DMD) and have Ohio dental license. Do you know if I can get Pennsylvania license by reciprocity?
Hello Dr Meera,
THIS was very useful information, thanku so much. However i would like to ask if after doing the CODA approved speciality course I can get the state license without NBDE right?
Nice one!Thanks for sharing this blog.
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Please I am a student in the dental school in Ghana. I want to know how I can practice in any state in the USA after completion.
Hello, I’m a foreign-trained dentist and was wondering if i did a 1 year GPR would i be able to work in states other than virginia after 5+ years or does that only apply to the 2 year AEGD/GPR programs?
Is a foreign dentistry graduate allowed to use the title doctor in the US even if she is not licensed here?